Re: Do the Looming Cisco Lay Offs Affect You?

I guess there is some irony in this conversation. The layoff daze is
never fun and it got to a point where I could not stand it at the
government X position I was holding. To put it plainly, I was not a
good enough politician to stay around so I checked the market out. I
was able to get an offer from Cisco but the layoff 'buzz' still
ringing greatly by my previous job and hearing that is what looms over
Cisco in the future immediately turned me off. The good news is that
there is a strong enough economy in Silicone Valley to support network
techs outside of Cisco. I chose Plantronics as they seem to have very
healthy financials (low inventory/high revenue) , treat associates
(the inside term for an employee) very well, and is headquartered by
the beach (probably the best perk!). Yes I chose not to go with Cisco
because in too many ways it also might be overrun by the political
guillotine. But then again, everyone I meet from Cisco seems much
smarter than that ;-)

Marc

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Larry Letterman <lletterm_at_cisco.com> wrote:
> Sorry scott...Maybe it works that way in your experience..not in mine thru 3
> layoffs within Cisco..we clean the bottom thru yearly attrition..Not
> layoffs..and not all of cisco is engineering/Dev..
>
>
> On 7/19/11 1:22 PM, "Scott Morris" <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
>
>> If that were true than all the layoffs would come from management and not
>> engineering! Be realistic...
>>
>> Brown nosing is part of it, because it's all about perceived value. At least
>> until someone else discovers that problems follow the person and not always
>> just the economy.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> PS. My kids still believe in the tooth fairy, so for all intents and
>> purposes, so do I! :)
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/11 2:00 PM, Karl Young wrote:
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> I see you still believe that there is a Tooth Fairy. How do you
>>> measure the bottom 5 % ? The cuts have NOTHING to do with Job Performance it
>>> is all about the Stock Price. These Managers will fire their Mothers if they
>>> are told to do it.The Brown Nosers are the ones that survive.
>>>
>>> Karl.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Larry Letterman <lletterm_at_cisco.com> <mailto:lletterm_at_cisco.com>
>>> To: CCIE KID <eliteccie_at_gmail.com> <mailto:eliteccie_at_gmail.com> ; john
>>> matijevic <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com> <mailto:john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> <mailto:swm_at_emanon.com> ;
>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 1:33 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Do the Looming Cisco Lay Offs Affect You?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CCIE-Kid
>>>
>>> I might suggest you talk to your Mgr and see what he has to say about your
>>> project and its importance in the mix of projects that your group has to
>>> deliver..You can also inquire where you stand in your group..Thats about all
>>> he can tell you at this time..It may give you a better peace of mind ,
>>>
>>> Larry Letterman
>>> data center Implementations
>>> Cisco Systems..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/19/11 12:21 PM, "CCIE KID" <eliteccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > Hi fellows ,
>>>> > I dont want to lose this job . I love what i do and also this is my first
>>>> > job in Cisco . I would regret getting fired from my favourite company and
> i
>>>> > am praying to god that i should not be chucked out. I cant even think what
>>>> > would happen after that. I am in a little bit stressed about it. Lets see
>>>> > what will happen.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:39 PM, john matijevic
>>>> > <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>>> >> My advice is to do the best job you can and realize that sometimes
>>>>> business
>>>>> >> decisions cannot be controlled by yourself. Maintain good relationships,
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> don't let the circumstances affect your job performance.
>>>>> >> Regards,
>>>>> >> John
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, CCIE KID <eliteccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>> >>> I am working in some Internal Project like Testing Migration Tools
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> >>> CMA,
>>>>>> >>> CCC and some other Migration tools.
>>>>>> >>> I am not actually interacting with the customer directly.Mine is to
>>>>>> test
>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>> >>> tools and then just deliver the bugs to the concern development team
>>>>>> . So
>>>>>> >>> i
>>>>>> >>> dont know whether i m in last 5 % list
>>>>>> >>> I am really fearing about my position
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Always remember with things like this, it's the BOTTOM 5%'ish where
> cuts
>>>>>>> >>>> happen. If you/your group are making your numbers and/or providing
> a
>>>>>>> >>>> valuable service to the organization, then you are highly unlikely
> to
>>>>>>> >>>> get cut.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> If you're figuring out ways to better yourself for the group, make
> sure
>>>>>>> >>>> everyone (mgr on up) knows about it.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
>>>>>>> #4713,
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> swm_at_emanon.com
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Knowledge is power.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Power corrupts.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On 7/19/11 12:21 PM, CCIE KID wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>> Hi fellows,
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> Yes Cisco is firing people from all quarters. I am really fearing
>>>>>> >>> about
>>>>>>> >>>> my
>>>>>>>> >>>>> job in Cisco Systems . Don't know what is going to happen.for me .
>>>>>> >>> Really
>>>>>>>> >>>>> guys please pray for me . I dont want to lose my job in Cisco. I
> am
>>>>>> >>> from
>>>>>>>> >>>>> Advanced Services team.
>>>>>>>> >>>>> Please guys pray for me . I want Cisco to overcome this obstacle
> in
>>>>>> >>> his
>>>>>>> >>>> path
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Eman <eman_at_ccieflyer.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Cisco Channel Partners are still hiring and we have signed up
> over
>>>>>> >>> 300
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> to-date as clients. Send me your resume eman_at_ccieflyer.com or
> call
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> 302-438-1681
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Cisco announced Monday that it will reduce its workforce by
> 6,500
>>>>>>> >>>> employees
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> in the first half of August as part of its effort to adjust its
>>>>>> >>> business
>>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> increased competition in the switching and router market.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> The reduction consists of 2,100 employees who have elected to
> take
>>>>>> >>> early
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> retirement and 4,400 who will be laid off. Cisco noted that the
> ranks
>>>>>> >>> of
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> vice president and above will experience a 15% reduction in
>>>>>>>>> force and
>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> full-time, regular workforce a 9% reduction. Those in the U.S.
> and
>>>>>>> >>>> Canada
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> will get the word in the first week of August. Other global
>>>>>>>>> workforce
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> reductions will occur soon after in compliance with local
>>>>>> >>> regulations,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Cisco
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> officials said.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> http://www.informationweek.com/news/infrastructure/switches/231002056
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
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