Re: Do the Looming Cisco Lay Offs Affect You?

Hi guys,
             I think the decion is already been taken, and I'm sure
it will be away for TAC, FTS, AS.
If it toches thoes areas it will be hitting the VPs not us .

Most of the layoffs will be hitting the sales.....IMHO

ahmed Elhoussiny,
Cisco services , FTS

On 7/19/11, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> I guess there is some irony in this conversation. The layoff daze is
> never fun and it got to a point where I could not stand it at the
> government X position I was holding. To put it plainly, I was not a
> good enough politician to stay around so I checked the market out. I
> was able to get an offer from Cisco but the layoff 'buzz' still
> ringing greatly by my previous job and hearing that is what looms over
> Cisco in the future immediately turned me off. The good news is that
> there is a strong enough economy in Silicone Valley to support network
> techs outside of Cisco. I chose Plantronics as they seem to have very
> healthy financials (low inventory/high revenue) , treat associates
> (the inside term for an employee) very well, and is headquartered by
> the beach (probably the best perk!). Yes I chose not to go with Cisco
> because in too many ways it also might be overrun by the political
> guillotine. But then again, everyone I meet from Cisco seems much
> smarter than that ;-)
>
> Marc
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Larry Letterman <lletterm_at_cisco.com>
> wrote:
>> Sorry scott...Maybe it works that way in your experience..not in mine thru
>> 3
>> layoffs within Cisco..we clean the bottom thru yearly attrition..Not
>> layoffs..and not all of cisco is engineering/Dev..
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/11 1:22 PM, "Scott Morris" <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If that were true than all the layoffs would come from management and
>>> not
>>> engineering! Be realistic...
>>>
>>> Brown nosing is part of it, because it's all about perceived value. At
>>> least
>>> until someone else discovers that problems follow the person and not
>>> always
>>> just the economy.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> PS. My kids still believe in the tooth fairy, so for all intents and
>>> purposes, so do I! :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/19/11 2:00 PM, Karl Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> I see you still believe that there is a Tooth Fairy. How do you
>>>> measure the bottom 5 % ? The cuts have NOTHING to do with Job
>>>> Performance it
>>>> is all about the Stock Price. These Managers will fire their Mothers if
>>>> they
>>>> are told to do it.The Brown Nosers are the ones that survive.
>>>>
>>>> Karl.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Larry Letterman <lletterm_at_cisco.com> <mailto:lletterm_at_cisco.com>
>>>> To: CCIE KID <eliteccie_at_gmail.com> <mailto:eliteccie_at_gmail.com> ; john
>>>> matijevic <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com> <mailto:john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> <mailto:swm_at_emanon.com> ;
>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 1:33 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: Do the Looming Cisco Lay Offs Affect You?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CCIE-Kid
>>>>
>>>> I might suggest you talk to your Mgr and see what he has to say about
>>>> your
>>>> project and its importance in the mix of projects that your group has to
>>>> deliver..You can also inquire where you stand in your group..Thats about
>>>> all
>>>> he can tell you at this time..It may give you a better peace of mind ,
>>>>
>>>> Larry Letterman
>>>> data center Implementations
>>>> Cisco Systems..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/19/11 12:21 PM, "CCIE KID" <eliteccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > Hi fellows ,
>>>>> > I dont want to lose this job . I love what i do and also this is my
>>>>> > first
>>>>> > job in Cisco . I would regret getting fired from my favourite company
>>>>> > and
>> i
>>>>> > am praying to god that i should not be chucked out. I cant even think
>>>>> > what
>>>>> > would happen after that. I am in a little bit stressed about it. Lets
>>>>> > see
>>>>> > what will happen.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:39 PM, john matijevic
>>>>> > <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> My advice is to do the best job you can and realize that sometimes
>>>>>> business
>>>>>> >> decisions cannot be controlled by yourself. Maintain good
>>>>>> >> relationships,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >> don't let the circumstances affect your job performance.
>>>>>> >> Regards,
>>>>>> >> John
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, CCIE KID <eliteccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>> >>> I am working in some Internal Project like Testing Migration
>>>>>>> >>> Tools
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> >>> CMA,
>>>>>>> >>> CCC and some other Migration tools.
>>>>>>> >>> I am not actually interacting with the customer directly.Mine is
>>>>>>> >>> to
>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>>> >>> tools and then just deliver the bugs to the concern development
>>>>>>> >>> team
>>>>>>> . So
>>>>>>> >>> i
>>>>>>> >>> dont know whether i m in last 5 % list
>>>>>>> >>> I am really fearing about my position
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
>>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Always remember with things like this, it's the BOTTOM 5%'ish
>>>>>>>> >>>> where
>> cuts
>>>>>>>> >>>> happen. If you/your group are making your numbers and/or
>>>>>>>> >>>> providing
>> a
>>>>>>>> >>>> valuable service to the organization, then you are highly
>>>>>>>> >>>> unlikely
>> to
>>>>>>>> >>>> get cut.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> If you're figuring out ways to better yourself for the group,
>>>>>>>> >>>> make
>> sure
>>>>>>>> >>>> everyone (mgr on up) knows about it.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
>>>>>>>> >>>> Provider)
>>>>>>>> #4713,
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> swm_at_emanon.com
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Knowledge is power.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Power corrupts.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> On 7/19/11 12:21 PM, CCIE KID wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Hi fellows,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Yes Cisco is firing people from all quarters. I am really
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> fearing
>>>>>>> >>> about
>>>>>>>> >>>> my
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> job in Cisco Systems . Don't know what is going to happen.for
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> me .
>>>>>>> >>> Really
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> guys please pray for me . I dont want to lose my job in
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Cisco. I
>> am
>>>>>>> >>> from
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Advanced Services team.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Please guys pray for me . I want Cisco to overcome this
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> obstacle
>> in
>>>>>>> >>> his
>>>>>>>> >>>> path
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Eman <eman_at_ccieflyer.com>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Cisco Channel Partners are still hiring and we have signed
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> up
>> over
>>>>>>> >>> 300
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> to-date as clients. Send me your resume eman_at_ccieflyer.com
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> or
>> call
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> 302-438-1681
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Cisco announced Monday that it will reduce its workforce by
>> 6,500
>>>>>>>> >>>> employees
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> in the first half of August as part of its effort to adjust
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> its
>>>>>>> >>> business
>>>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> increased competition in the switching and router market.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> The reduction consists of 2,100 employees who have elected
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> to
>> take
>>>>>>> >>> early
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> retirement and 4,400 who will be laid off. Cisco noted that
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> the
>> ranks
>>>>>>> >>> of
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> vice president and above will experience a 15% reduction in
>>>>>>>>>> force and
>>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> full-time, regular workforce a 9% reduction. Those in the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> U.S.
>> and
>>>>>>>> >>>> Canada
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> will get the word in the first week of August. Other global
>>>>>>>>>> workforce
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> reductions will occur soon after in compliance with local
>>>>>>> >>> regulations,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Cisco
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> officials said.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> http://www.informationweek.com/news/infrastructure/switches/231002056
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> T
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> CCIE Flyer
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> O...O....
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Eman - CCIE Agent
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> 302-438-1681
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> CCIE Flyer, CCIE Jobs, CCIE Network
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Cisco SRS Program Member
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
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>>>>>>> >>>
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