Re: Do the Looming Cisco Lay Offs Affect You?

Sorry scott...Maybe it works that way in your experience..not in mine thru 3
layoffs within Cisco..we clean the bottom thru yearly attrition..Not
layoffs..and not all of cisco is engineering/Dev..

On 7/19/11 1:22 PM, "Scott Morris" <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:

> If that were true than all the layoffs would come from management and not
> engineering! Be realistic...
>
> Brown nosing is part of it, because it's all about perceived value. At least
> until someone else discovers that problems follow the person and not always
> just the economy.
>
> Scott
>
> PS. My kids still believe in the tooth fairy, so for all intents and
> purposes, so do I! :)
>
>
> On 7/19/11 2:00 PM, Karl Young wrote:
>>
>> John,
>>
>> I see you still believe that there is a Tooth Fairy. How do you
>> measure the bottom 5 % ? The cuts have NOTHING to do with Job Performance it
>> is all about the Stock Price. These Managers will fire their Mothers if they
>> are told to do it.The Brown Nosers are the ones that survive.
>>
>> Karl.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Larry Letterman <lletterm_at_cisco.com> <mailto:lletterm_at_cisco.com>
>> To: CCIE KID <eliteccie_at_gmail.com> <mailto:eliteccie_at_gmail.com> ; john
>> matijevic <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com> <mailto:john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>
>> Cc: Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> <mailto:swm_at_emanon.com> ;
>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 1:33 pm
>> Subject: Re: Do the Looming Cisco Lay Offs Affect You?
>>
>>
>>
>> CCIE-Kid
>>
>> I might suggest you talk to your Mgr and see what he has to say about your
>> project and its importance in the mix of projects that your group has to
>> deliver..You can also inquire where you stand in your group..Thats about all
>> he can tell you at this time..It may give you a better peace of mind ,
>>
>> Larry Letterman
>> data center Implementations
>> Cisco Systems..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/11 12:21 PM, "CCIE KID" <eliteccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > Hi fellows ,
>>> > I dont want to lose this job . I love what i do and also this is my first
>>> > job in Cisco . I would regret getting fired from my favourite company and
i
>>> > am praying to god that i should not be chucked out. I cant even think what
>>> > would happen after that. I am in a little bit stressed about it. Lets see
>>> > what will happen.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:39 PM, john matijevic
>>> > <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >
>>>> >> My advice is to do the best job you can and realize that sometimes
>>>> business
>>>> >> decisions cannot be controlled by yourself. Maintain good relationships,
>>>> and
>>>> >> don't let the circumstances affect your job performance.
>>>> >> Regards,
>>>> >> John
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, CCIE KID <eliteccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Hi Scott,
>>>>> >>> I am working in some Internal Project like Testing Migration Tools
>>>>> like
>>>>> >>> CMA,
>>>>> >>> CCC and some other Migration tools.
>>>>> >>> I am not actually interacting with the customer directly.Mine is to
>>>>> test
>>>>> >>> the
>>>>> >>> tools and then just deliver the bugs to the concern development team
>>>>> . So
>>>>> >>> i
>>>>> >>> dont know whether i m in last 5 % list
>>>>> >>> I am really fearing about my position
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Always remember with things like this, it's the BOTTOM 5%'ish where
cuts
>>>>>> >>>> happen. If you/your group are making your numbers and/or providing
a
>>>>>> >>>> valuable service to the organization, then you are highly unlikely
to
>>>>>> >>>> get cut.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> If you're figuring out ways to better yourself for the group, make
sure
>>>>>> >>>> everyone (mgr on up) knows about it.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Good luck!
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
>>>>>> #4713,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> swm_at_emanon.com
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Knowledge is power.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Power corrupts.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On 7/19/11 12:21 PM, CCIE KID wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>> Hi fellows,
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Yes Cisco is firing people from all quarters. I am really fearing
>>>>> >>> about
>>>>>> >>>> my
>>>>>>> >>>>> job in Cisco Systems . Don't know what is going to happen.for me .
>>>>> >>> Really
>>>>>>> >>>>> guys please pray for me . I dont want to lose my job in Cisco. I
am
>>>>> >>> from
>>>>>>> >>>>> Advanced Services team.
>>>>>>> >>>>> Please guys pray for me . I want Cisco to overcome this obstacle
in
>>>>> >>> his
>>>>>> >>>> path
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Eman <eman_at_ccieflyer.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Cisco Channel Partners are still hiring and we have signed up
over
>>>>> >>> 300
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> to-date as clients. Send me your resume eman_at_ccieflyer.com or
call
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> 302-438-1681
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Cisco announced Monday that it will reduce its workforce by
6,500
>>>>>> >>>> employees
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> in the first half of August as part of its effort to adjust its
>>>>> >>> business
>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> increased competition in the switching and router market.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> The reduction consists of 2,100 employees who have elected to
take
>>>>> >>> early
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> retirement and 4,400 who will be laid off. Cisco noted that the
ranks
>>>>> >>> of
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> vice president and above will experience a 15% reduction in
>>>>>>>> force and
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> full-time, regular workforce a 9% reduction. Those in the U.S.
and
>>>>>> >>>> Canada
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> will get the word in the first week of August. Other global
>>>>>>>> workforce
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> reductions will occur soon after in compliance with local
>>>>> >>> regulations,
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Cisco
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> officials said.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>> http://www.informationweek.com/news/infrastructure/switches/231002056
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>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
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