Re: CCIE R&S Decline

Well, just interesting.
How many students (in %) had attended your bootcamp and haven't tried
to pass CCIE for more than 6 month? Or even stopped preparing at all?
[I am confused about grammar in above sentence, someone please correct tenses]

And probably one more Q, (if it is not a secret =) ).
Are students paying for bootcamp themselves or sponsored by employee?
(Or majority of them)

Just to know how people are motivated.

On 11 July 2011 23:34, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Also remember that more CCIEs are going for multiple tracks, whereas, in the
> old days more people were focused on a single track.
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> This may sound like a surprise but from what i hear and see there is a
>> shortage of CCIEs around the world. It all depends who you talk to, if they
>> are doing well, they will tell you "*yeh CCIE classes are going well,
>> consulting is doing unbelievable and etc etc etc .......*" But if you talk
>> to a person that is not doing as well, you will hear a lot of sad
>> music/story about the economy.
>>
>> Michael,
>> One of the major reasons for rack rental or price reduction is the fact
>> that there are more companies offering CCIE classes, and when it comes to
>> boot camps, they are offering a much better and more comprehensive program
>> than *some* of the old ones used to offer.
>>
>> When it comes to rack rentals, i think we have the BEST pricing, but it's
>> on a monthly basis, some of the other ones have a fantastic deal on an 8
>> hour intervals, so you see you have lots of choices. In the old days there
>> were ONLY few vendors that offered Boot Camps, nowadays you have more
>> choices.
>>
>> I travel all over the world, and no matter where i go, CCIEs are in high
>> and i mean HIGH demand. When the economy goes down, CERTS like CCIE becomes
>> a MUST, the more CERTs (That you can backup the knowledge) you have the
>> easier it is to get a consulting gig or a permanent position.
>>
>> I do not see any issues as far as Training and consulting is concerned when
>> it comes to CCIE Cert.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Michael Kiefer <mjkiefer_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I can tell you that I've been studying for the IE for quite some time now.
>>> I
>>> started in 2008. I played around for a few years and got serious in the
>>> last
>>> 18 months.
>>>
>>> It seems like rack rentals were a pain to get when I first started
>>> studying.
>>> Now I can get them anytime with little to no notice.
>>>
>>> Vendors are damn near giving stuff away. It wasn't that way in 2008.
>>>
>>> The recession has taken a huge toll on the economy.
>>>
>>> Cisco isn't going off a cliff. They are a big company and they just aren't
>>> as nimble as some of the competition.
>>>
>>> The one thing I can't figure out about Mr. Reese is if he hates Cisco so
>>> much, why sell their gear!
>>>
>>> Oh yeah..... It's probably 90% of his business.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Farrukh Haroon <farrukhharoon_at_gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> > Dear All
>>> >
>>> > I came across this interesting link, I was wondering how or why the
>>> CCIE
>>> > RnS count could go down by almost 1k in less than a year? The actual
>>> figure
>>> > might be even higher than 2k (if you look at the nice math at the end of
>>> > that link <wink> )
>>> >
>>> > Was the recession so tough that people could not afford for the written
>>> > exam
>>> > fees and few hours of study to renew their cert?
>>> >
>>> > http://bradreese.com/blog/5-24-2011.htm
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> >
>>> > Farrukh
>>> >
>>> > P.S. I have confirmed those stats myself from one CCIE Live/Networkers
>>> > presentation (have a live pass)
>>> >
>>> >
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>>
>>
>> --
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