Re: CCIE R&S Decline

You make a good point about the economy Narbik. Maybe I am spoiled being a
CCIE and never having to worry about if I can find a job, but it seems to me
that if people would stop watching the freaking news and the rest of the
garbage on TV and stop listening to people that are constantly giving them
negative input about EVERYTHING and instead do something productive like
study they would have no problem getting a raise during the "recession"

It's all about perspective.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> This may sound like a surprise but from what i hear and see there is a
> shortage of CCIEs around the world. It all depends who you talk to, if they
> are doing well, they will tell you "*yeh CCIE classes are going well,
> consulting is doing unbelievable and etc etc etc .......*" But if you talk
> to a person that is not doing as well, you will hear a lot of sad
> music/story about the economy.
>
> Michael,
> One of the major reasons for rack rental or price reduction is the fact
> that
> there are more companies offering CCIE classes, and when it comes to boot
> camps, they are offering a much better and more comprehensive program than
> *
> some* of the old ones used to offer.
>
> When it comes to rack rentals, i think we have the BEST pricing, but it's
> on
> a monthly basis, some of the other ones have a fantastic deal on an 8 hour
> intervals, so you see you have lots of choices. In the old days there were
> ONLY few vendors that offered Boot Camps, nowadays you have more choices.
>
> I travel all over the world, and no matter where i go, CCIEs are in high
> and
> i mean HIGH demand. When the economy goes down, CERTS like CCIE becomes a
> MUST, the more CERTs (That you can backup the knowledge) you have the
> easier
> it is to get a consulting gig or a permanent position.
>
> I do not see any issues as far as Training and consulting is concerned when
> it comes to CCIE Cert.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Michael Kiefer <mjkiefer_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I can tell you that I've been studying for the IE for quite some time
> now.
> > I
> > started in 2008. I played around for a few years and got serious in the
> > last
> > 18 months.
> >
> > It seems like rack rentals were a pain to get when I first started
> > studying.
> > Now I can get them anytime with little to no notice.
> >
> > Vendors are damn near giving stuff away. It wasn't that way in 2008.
> >
> > The recession has taken a huge toll on the economy.
> >
> > Cisco isn't going off a cliff. They are a big company and they just
> aren't
> > as nimble as some of the competition.
> >
> > The one thing I can't figure out about Mr. Reese is if he hates Cisco so
> > much, why sell their gear!
> >
> > Oh yeah..... It's probably 90% of his business.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Farrukh Haroon <farrukhharoon_at_gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Dear All
> > >
> > > I came across this interesting link, I was wondering how or why the
> CCIE
> > > RnS count could go down by almost 1k in less than a year? The actual
> > figure
> > > might be even higher than 2k (if you look at the nice math at the end
> of
> > > that link <wink> )
> > >
> > > Was the recession so tough that people could not afford for the written
> > > exam
> > > fees and few hours of study to renew their cert?
> > >
> > > http://bradreese.com/blog/5-24-2011.htm
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Farrukh
> > >
> > > P.S. I have confirmed those stats myself from one CCIE Live/Networkers
> > > presentation (have a live pass)
> > >
> > >
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