Re: Passed the lab, some tips: "a week before the lab".

I highly recommend building your deck from scratch as well.

There are plenty of cisco-related decks out there (check the shared
decks section of Anki).

But making your own is really the way to go.

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Artem Nedoshepa
<artem.nedoshepa_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll add even more, if I share my deck, you won't understand more than a
> half of the questions. The process of creating your own deck is very
> important and can't be skipped. There is a saying "In order to ask a good
> question you need to know at least a half of the answer".
>
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:51 AM, ehtesham ali <conect2ehtesham_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> absolutely !
>>
>> but making our own , will make us go into the roots of technology :)
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > That should be great starting point.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > does anyone wish to share their Anki personal deck?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Jay McMickle-
>> > > CCNP, CCSP, CCDP, MCSE
>> > > http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com/
>> > > ________________________________
>> > > From: Artem Nedoshepa
>> > > <artem.nedoshepa_at_gmail.com>
>> > > To: Groupstudy <davidbass570_at_gmail.com>;
>> > > "<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> > > certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> > > Sent: Mon,
>> > > December 13, 2010 9:12:28 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: Passed the lab, some tips: "a week
>> > > before the lab".
>> > >
>> > > It took me 12 month to build my Anki deck. When I started in
>> > > January I was
>> > > putting like 20 cards per lab, whatever is new for your or there
>> > > is a
>> > > "trick" that you won't remember -- must go into Anki.
>> > > Later I started
>> > > using screenshots from the questions/scenarios/docs, it
>> > > makes the card
>> > > readable. (I mean imagine you have 4 bgp ASs and the
>> > > questions is asking
>> > > something about it, it's hard to "draw" the ASs in text.
>> > > Also you remember
>> > > those "Friday's puzzle" from Narbik, guess what, it's in
>> > > my Anki, we're just
>> > > humans and you can't keep everything in your head. When
>> > > I wake up I make my
>> > > Yerba Mate (it's a kind of tea) and load the Anki deck,
>> > > my morning starts not
>> > > with coffee, it starts with SRS :). Unless you're
>> > > a genius who can remember
>> > > something just looking at it once - SRS is you
>> > > best friend.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Dec 13,
>> > > 2010 at 9:57 PM, Groupstudy <davidbass570_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Congrats, and
>> > > some very good ideas! It's been a LONG time (2006) since I
>> > > > last tried the
>> > > lab, so have been wondering how to go about the TS part.
>> > > > Your suggestions
>> > > will help for sure.
>> > > >
>> > > > I've considered using anki for flash cards as well,
>> > > but have never used the
>> > > > program. Where did you get the cards from?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > >
>> > > > David
>> > > >
>> > > > Sent from my iPhone
>> > > >
>> > > > On Dec 13, 2010, at 8:03 PM,
>> > > Artem Nedoshepa <artem.nedoshepa_at_gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > First of all I want
>> > > to say thank you guys, all and each of you
>> > > > contributed
>> > > > > in my number:
>> > > CCIE#27705
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I'd like to share my "story".
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 1.5 months ago I took
>> > > the lab in RTP and failed the TS but passed the
>> > > > > configs. I was so
>> > > confident about the TS that I thought I'd have an hour
>> > > > > spare time. When I
>> > > got to the 3rd ticket I realized that I'm going to
>> > > > need
>> > > > > that "spare
>> > > hour". During the TS it felt like the clock was going 1.5
>> > > > times
>> > > > > faster,
>> > > no bathroom, no going to a breakroom. (in RTP the bathroom is
>> > > > kind
>> > > > > of
>> > > far, not like in SJC - across the hole.) The config section took me
>> > > > over
>> > > >
>> > > > 5.5 hours, I had about 20 minutes to verify. All this 6 hours I was
>> > > >
>> > > worried
>> > > > > that I had only 8 tkt solved and most-likely some of them are
>> > > incorrect,
>> > > > but
>> > > > > I was trying to stay as positive as I could be. On the
>> > > plane home
>> > > > overall
>> > > > > feeling was that I failed both sections, because I
>> > > didn't have enough
>> > > > time
>> > > > > to verify the configs and not enough tickets
>> > > solved. The next day I got
>> > > > the
>> > > > > results and I was ready to see "FAIL".
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > I booked the next attempt in 6 weeks in SJC since the RTP was
>> booked
>> > > >
>> > > until
>> > > > > February. I took it easy for a week or so, than started building a
>> > > TS
>> > > > > scenarios with 30+ devices and all possible trouble tickets. A
>> friend
>> > > of
>> > > > > mine Charlie (who passed as well) and I used the approach : "To
>> > become
>> > > a
>> > > > > criminal you must think like a criminal". You'll be surprised how
>> > much
>> > > > you
>> > > > > can learn by "breaking" stuff for your buddy. So what we did is we
>> > > made a
>> > > > > .net topology in dynamips with 30 + routers, put some preconfigs
>> > > (basic
>> > > > > routing, BGP, MPLS etc..), we also included almost all possible "ip
>> > > > > services" and other "stuff" that you see on the blueprint. Each of
>> > us
>> > > >
>> > > made
>> > > > > 2 full TS scenarios for each other. By a "full TS scenarios" I mean
>> > > 16+
>> > > > > tickets, and we made the tickets a bit harder that we experienced
>> in
>> > > the
>> > > > > lab. A week before the lab each of us had 2 "Super-sessions", 2
>> hours
>> > > TS
>> > > > + 6
>> > > > > hours configs, (let your friend to pick the lab for your,
>> > > whichever
>> > > > vendor
>> > > > > you use). These "super-sessions" with harder that in
>> > > reality TS helped a
>> > > > > lot (we did it twice with one day delay). I'd
>> > > recommend not to touch the
>> > > > > keyboard 2 days before the lab.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > SJC,
>> > > the TS session started, 10 minutes passed 2 or 3 tickets done, power
>> > > > >
>> > > outage :), believe it or not, I didn't worried at all, I went and made
>> > > > some
>> > > > > tea (another tip, don't drink coffee if you don't usually drink
>> it,
>> > it
>> > > >
>> > > > WON"T make you smarter/faster), went to the bathroom. It took the
>> > > > proctors
>> > > > > 20 minutes to fix the issue, we got lucky - the configs were saved
>> > but
>> > > I
>> > > >
>> > > > verified each solved ticket, just to make sure. I finished the TS
>> with
>> > 30
>> > > >
>> > > > minutes left. The clock was going 0.8 times slower this time,
>> > everything
>> > > >
>> > > was
>> > > > > like in a slow motion, I don't know maybe because our TS was too
>> > > hardcore
>> > > > > than the real one. The config part was fun, went to the proctors
>> > > like 20
>> > > > > times, it wasn't clear, looks like somebody from another planet
>> > > wrote it.
>> > > > > (my first attempt the lab was very clear, I went to the proctor
>> > > only 3-4
>> > > > > times). Before going to the proctor made 3 different versions of
>> > > the
>> > > > > question in your head and be prepared to hear "I can't tell you
>> it",
>> > > "do
>> > > > > what the question says". Take a moment and really think how to
>> > > rephrase
>> > > > the
>> > > > > same question, show the proctor that you know the "stuff"
>> > > and you just
>> > > > need
>> > > > > some small details to make the right decision.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > For preparation I used 4x3550 and dynamips, I made a little blog about
>> it
>> > > > >
>> > > ccie4you.info , for stuff that don't work on 3550 or Dynamips rented
>> a
>> > > > real
>> > > > > rack a couple of times. Use SRS twice a day, I used Anki, so far
>> it's
>> > > the
>> > > > > best I've seen. (My anki deck has like 1300 cards).
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Again,
>> > > thank you all.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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