Re: Passed the lab, some tips: "a week before the lab".

I'll add even more, if I share my deck, you won't understand more than a
half of the questions. The process of creating your own deck is very
important and can't be skipped. There is a saying "In order to ask a good
question you need to know at least a half of the answer".

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:51 AM, ehtesham ali <conect2ehtesham_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> absolutely !
>
> but making our own , will make us go into the roots of technology :)
>
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > That should be great starting point.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > does anyone wish to share their Anki personal deck?
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jay McMickle-
> > > CCNP, CCSP, CCDP, MCSE
> > > http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com/
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Artem Nedoshepa
> > > <artem.nedoshepa_at_gmail.com>
> > > To: Groupstudy <davidbass570_at_gmail.com>;
> > > "<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > > certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Mon,
> > > December 13, 2010 9:12:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Passed the lab, some tips: "a week
> > > before the lab".
> > >
> > > It took me 12 month to build my Anki deck. When I started in
> > > January I was
> > > putting like 20 cards per lab, whatever is new for your or there
> > > is a
> > > "trick" that you won't remember -- must go into Anki.
> > > Later I started
> > > using screenshots from the questions/scenarios/docs, it
> > > makes the card
> > > readable. (I mean imagine you have 4 bgp ASs and the
> > > questions is asking
> > > something about it, it's hard to "draw" the ASs in text.
> > > Also you remember
> > > those "Friday's puzzle" from Narbik, guess what, it's in
> > > my Anki, we're just
> > > humans and you can't keep everything in your head. When
> > > I wake up I make my
> > > Yerba Mate (it's a kind of tea) and load the Anki deck,
> > > my morning starts not
> > > with coffee, it starts with SRS :). Unless you're
> > > a genius who can remember
> > > something just looking at it once - SRS is you
> > > best friend.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 13,
> > > 2010 at 9:57 PM, Groupstudy <davidbass570_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Congrats, and
> > > some very good ideas! It's been a LONG time (2006) since I
> > > > last tried the
> > > lab, so have been wondering how to go about the TS part.
> > > > Your suggestions
> > > will help for sure.
> > > >
> > > > I've considered using anki for flash cards as well,
> > > but have never used the
> > > > program. Where did you get the cards from?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 13, 2010, at 8:03 PM,
> > > Artem Nedoshepa <artem.nedoshepa_at_gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > First of all I want
> > > to say thank you guys, all and each of you
> > > > contributed
> > > > > in my number:
> > > CCIE#27705
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd like to share my "story".
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.5 months ago I took
> > > the lab in RTP and failed the TS but passed the
> > > > > configs. I was so
> > > confident about the TS that I thought I'd have an hour
> > > > > spare time. When I
> > > got to the 3rd ticket I realized that I'm going to
> > > > need
> > > > > that "spare
> > > hour". During the TS it felt like the clock was going 1.5
> > > > times
> > > > > faster,
> > > no bathroom, no going to a breakroom. (in RTP the bathroom is
> > > > kind
> > > > > of
> > > far, not like in SJC - across the hole.) The config section took me
> > > > over
> > > >
> > > > 5.5 hours, I had about 20 minutes to verify. All this 6 hours I was
> > > >
> > > worried
> > > > > that I had only 8 tkt solved and most-likely some of them are
> > > incorrect,
> > > > but
> > > > > I was trying to stay as positive as I could be. On the
> > > plane home
> > > > overall
> > > > > feeling was that I failed both sections, because I
> > > didn't have enough
> > > > time
> > > > > to verify the configs and not enough tickets
> > > solved. The next day I got
> > > > the
> > > > > results and I was ready to see "FAIL".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I booked the next attempt in 6 weeks in SJC since the RTP was
> booked
> > > >
> > > until
> > > > > February. I took it easy for a week or so, than started building a
> > > TS
> > > > > scenarios with 30+ devices and all possible trouble tickets. A
> friend
> > > of
> > > > > mine Charlie (who passed as well) and I used the approach : "To
> > become
> > > a
> > > > > criminal you must think like a criminal". You'll be surprised how
> > much
> > > > you
> > > > > can learn by "breaking" stuff for your buddy. So what we did is we
> > > made a
> > > > > .net topology in dynamips with 30 + routers, put some preconfigs
> > > (basic
> > > > > routing, BGP, MPLS etc..), we also included almost all possible "ip
> > > > > services" and other "stuff" that you see on the blueprint. Each of
> > us
> > > >
> > > made
> > > > > 2 full TS scenarios for each other. By a "full TS scenarios" I mean
> > > 16+
> > > > > tickets, and we made the tickets a bit harder that we experienced
> in
> > > the
> > > > > lab. A week before the lab each of us had 2 "Super-sessions", 2
> hours
> > > TS
> > > > + 6
> > > > > hours configs, (let your friend to pick the lab for your,
> > > whichever
> > > > vendor
> > > > > you use). These "super-sessions" with harder that in
> > > reality TS helped a
> > > > > lot (we did it twice with one day delay). I'd
> > > recommend not to touch the
> > > > > keyboard 2 days before the lab.
> > > > >
> > > > > SJC,
> > > the TS session started, 10 minutes passed 2 or 3 tickets done, power
> > > > >
> > > outage :), believe it or not, I didn't worried at all, I went and made
> > > > some
> > > > > tea (another tip, don't drink coffee if you don't usually drink
> it,
> > it
> > > >
> > > > WON"T make you smarter/faster), went to the bathroom. It took the
> > > > proctors
> > > > > 20 minutes to fix the issue, we got lucky - the configs were saved
> > but
> > > I
> > > >
> > > > verified each solved ticket, just to make sure. I finished the TS
> with
> > 30
> > > >
> > > > minutes left. The clock was going 0.8 times slower this time,
> > everything
> > > >
> > > was
> > > > > like in a slow motion, I don't know maybe because our TS was too
> > > hardcore
> > > > > than the real one. The config part was fun, went to the proctors
> > > like 20
> > > > > times, it wasn't clear, looks like somebody from another planet
> > > wrote it.
> > > > > (my first attempt the lab was very clear, I went to the proctor
> > > only 3-4
> > > > > times). Before going to the proctor made 3 different versions of
> > > the
> > > > > question in your head and be prepared to hear "I can't tell you
> it",
> > > "do
> > > > > what the question says". Take a moment and really think how to
> > > rephrase
> > > > the
> > > > > same question, show the proctor that you know the "stuff"
> > > and you just
> > > > need
> > > > > some small details to make the right decision.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > For preparation I used 4x3550 and dynamips, I made a little blog about
> it
> > > > >
> > > ccie4you.info , for stuff that don't work on 3550 or Dynamips rented
> a
> > > > real
> > > > > rack a couple of times. Use SRS twice a day, I used Anki, so far
> it's
> > > the
> > > > > best I've seen. (My anki deck has like 1300 cards).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Again,
> > > thank you all.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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