Re: Passed the lab, some tips: "a week before the lab".

just installed Anki, and download a CCNP BGP deck and this is amazing
experience... I wish if you guys can share your decks, even if 50% of your
decks are useful even then its highly beneficial.

Thanks in advance.......

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Charlie <magiccharlie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I highly recommend building your deck from scratch as well.
>
> There are plenty of cisco-related decks out there (check the shared
> decks section of Anki).
>
> But making your own is really the way to go.
>
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Artem Nedoshepa
> <artem.nedoshepa_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'll add even more, if I share my deck, you won't understand more than a
> > half of the questions. The process of creating your own deck is very
> > important and can't be skipped. There is a saying "In order to ask a good
> > question you need to know at least a half of the answer".
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:51 AM, ehtesham ali <
> conect2ehtesham_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> absolutely !
> >>
> >> but making our own , will make us go into the roots of technology :)
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > That should be great starting point.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > does anyone wish to share their Anki personal deck?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > > Jay McMickle-
> >> > > CCNP, CCSP, CCDP, MCSE
> >> > > http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com/
> >> > > ________________________________
> >> > > From: Artem Nedoshepa
> >> > > <artem.nedoshepa_at_gmail.com>
> >> > > To: Groupstudy <davidbass570_at_gmail.com>;
> >> > > "<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >> > > certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >> > > Sent: Mon,
> >> > > December 13, 2010 9:12:28 PM
> >> > > Subject: Re: Passed the lab, some tips: "a week
> >> > > before the lab".
> >> > >
> >> > > It took me 12 month to build my Anki deck. When I started in
> >> > > January I was
> >> > > putting like 20 cards per lab, whatever is new for your or there
> >> > > is a
> >> > > "trick" that you won't remember -- must go into Anki.
> >> > > Later I started
> >> > > using screenshots from the questions/scenarios/docs, it
> >> > > makes the card
> >> > > readable. (I mean imagine you have 4 bgp ASs and the
> >> > > questions is asking
> >> > > something about it, it's hard to "draw" the ASs in text.
> >> > > Also you remember
> >> > > those "Friday's puzzle" from Narbik, guess what, it's in
> >> > > my Anki, we're just
> >> > > humans and you can't keep everything in your head. When
> >> > > I wake up I make my
> >> > > Yerba Mate (it's a kind of tea) and load the Anki deck,
> >> > > my morning starts not
> >> > > with coffee, it starts with SRS :). Unless you're
> >> > > a genius who can remember
> >> > > something just looking at it once - SRS is you
> >> > > best friend.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Dec 13,
> >> > > 2010 at 9:57 PM, Groupstudy <davidbass570_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Congrats, and
> >> > > some very good ideas! It's been a LONG time (2006) since I
> >> > > > last tried the
> >> > > lab, so have been wondering how to go about the TS part.
> >> > > > Your suggestions
> >> > > will help for sure.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I've considered using anki for flash cards as well,
> >> > > but have never used the
> >> > > > program. Where did you get the cards from?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > David
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Dec 13, 2010, at 8:03 PM,
> >> > > Artem Nedoshepa <artem.nedoshepa_at_gmail.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > First of all I want
> >> > > to say thank you guys, all and each of you
> >> > > > contributed
> >> > > > > in my number:
> >> > > CCIE#27705
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I'd like to share my "story".
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > 1.5 months ago I took
> >> > > the lab in RTP and failed the TS but passed the
> >> > > > > configs. I was so
> >> > > confident about the TS that I thought I'd have an hour
> >> > > > > spare time. When I
> >> > > got to the 3rd ticket I realized that I'm going to
> >> > > > need
> >> > > > > that "spare
> >> > > hour". During the TS it felt like the clock was going 1.5
> >> > > > times
> >> > > > > faster,
> >> > > no bathroom, no going to a breakroom. (in RTP the bathroom is
> >> > > > kind
> >> > > > > of
> >> > > far, not like in SJC - across the hole.) The config section took me
> >> > > > over
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 5.5 hours, I had about 20 minutes to verify. All this 6 hours I
> was
> >> > > >
> >> > > worried
> >> > > > > that I had only 8 tkt solved and most-likely some of them are
> >> > > incorrect,
> >> > > > but
> >> > > > > I was trying to stay as positive as I could be. On the
> >> > > plane home
> >> > > > overall
> >> > > > > feeling was that I failed both sections, because I
> >> > > didn't have enough
> >> > > > time
> >> > > > > to verify the configs and not enough tickets
> >> > > solved. The next day I got
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > results and I was ready to see "FAIL".
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > I booked the next attempt in 6 weeks in SJC since the RTP was
> >> booked
> >> > > >
> >> > > until
> >> > > > > February. I took it easy for a week or so, than started building
> a
> >> > > TS
> >> > > > > scenarios with 30+ devices and all possible trouble tickets. A
> >> friend
> >> > > of
> >> > > > > mine Charlie (who passed as well) and I used the approach : "To
> >> > become
> >> > > a
> >> > > > > criminal you must think like a criminal". You'll be surprised
> how
> >> > much
> >> > > > you
> >> > > > > can learn by "breaking" stuff for your buddy. So what we did is
> we
> >> > > made a
> >> > > > > .net topology in dynamips with 30 + routers, put some preconfigs
> >> > > (basic
> >> > > > > routing, BGP, MPLS etc..), we also included almost all possible
> "ip
> >> > > > > services" and other "stuff" that you see on the blueprint. Each
> of
> >> > us
> >> > > >
> >> > > made
> >> > > > > 2 full TS scenarios for each other. By a "full TS scenarios" I
> mean
> >> > > 16+
> >> > > > > tickets, and we made the tickets a bit harder that we
> experienced
> >> in
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > lab. A week before the lab each of us had 2 "Super-sessions", 2
> >> hours
> >> > > TS
> >> > > > + 6
> >> > > > > hours configs, (let your friend to pick the lab for your,
> >> > > whichever
> >> > > > vendor
> >> > > > > you use). These "super-sessions" with harder that in
> >> > > reality TS helped a
> >> > > > > lot (we did it twice with one day delay). I'd
> >> > > recommend not to touch the
> >> > > > > keyboard 2 days before the lab.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > SJC,
> >> > > the TS session started, 10 minutes passed 2 or 3 tickets done, power
> >> > > > >
> >> > > outage :), believe it or not, I didn't worried at all, I went and
> made
> >> > > > some
> >> > > > > tea (another tip, don't drink coffee if you don't usually drink
> >> it,
> >> > it
> >> > > >
> >> > > > WON"T make you smarter/faster), went to the bathroom. It took the
> >> > > > proctors
> >> > > > > 20 minutes to fix the issue, we got lucky - the configs were
> saved
> >> > but
> >> > > I
> >> > > >
> >> > > > verified each solved ticket, just to make sure. I finished the TS
> >> with
> >> > 30
> >> > > >
> >> > > > minutes left. The clock was going 0.8 times slower this time,
> >> > everything
> >> > > >
> >> > > was
> >> > > > > like in a slow motion, I don't know maybe because our TS was too
> >> > > hardcore
> >> > > > > than the real one. The config part was fun, went to the
> proctors
> >> > > like 20
> >> > > > > times, it wasn't clear, looks like somebody from another planet
> >> > > wrote it.
> >> > > > > (my first attempt the lab was very clear, I went to the proctor
> >> > > only 3-4
> >> > > > > times). Before going to the proctor made 3 different versions
> of
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > question in your head and be prepared to hear "I can't tell you
> >> it",
> >> > > "do
> >> > > > > what the question says". Take a moment and really think how to
> >> > > rephrase
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > same question, show the proctor that you know the "stuff"
> >> > > and you just
> >> > > > need
> >> > > > > some small details to make the right decision.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > For preparation I used 4x3550 and dynamips, I made a little blog
> about
> >> it
> >> > > > >
> >> > > ccie4you.info , for stuff that don't work on 3550 or Dynamips
> rented
> >> a
> >> > > > real
> >> > > > > rack a couple of times. Use SRS twice a day, I used Anki, so far
> >> it's
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > best I've seen. (My anki deck has like 1300 cards).
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Again,
> >> > > thank you all.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
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> >> > > > >
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