Re: Failed - October 8.

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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:

> I actually fail to see what was so funny in the message I posted?
>
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> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 17:31, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > hahahahahahaha
> >
> > Have you seen mine???????
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Did you have any time to look over our free vLectures on that subject?
> >> They are recorded and posted here: http://bit.ly/vLecture
> >>
> >> Also, all subjects are covered in-depth in all the workbooks included
> >> in our Blended Learning Solution, not to mention tens of hours of
> >> audio and video material.
> >>
> >> it's all there :-)
> >>
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> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:37, Poplawski, James
> >> <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
> >> > Going through the material enough will have it warped into your head
> >> > enough.
> >> >
> >> > I would expect some vendors beef up their Frame Relay and IPv6
> Multicast
> >> > training as I could use some more in-depth practice with both.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > JB
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:35 AM
> >> > To: Poplawski, James
> >> > Cc: Narbik Kocharians; Muzammil Malick; Oskar; --Hammer--; CCIE Group
> >> > Study
> >> > Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
> >> >
> >> > HA! There you go! Wabbit spanning-tree :-).
> >> >
> >> > So, anything else you need help remembering?
> >> >
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> >> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:20, Poplawski, James
> >> > <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
> >> >> 802.1w as in Rapid or Bugs Bunny fans wabbit!
> >> >>
> >> >> First attempt I freaked out, I said 802.1w, I'm 95% sure it's rapid,
> >> >> but I better double-check.
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:13 AM
> >> >> To: Narbik Kocharians
> >> >> Cc: Poplawski, James; Muzammil Malick; Oskar; --Hammer--; CCIE Group
> >> >> Study
> >> >> Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
> >> >>
> >> >> That's a constant. You just remember 802.1 and then add the letter
> "s"
> >> >> as in mSt, or "w" as in "Whatwasitagain"? ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >> >> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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> >> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:11, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> hahaha
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Don't forget that they both have 802 in them as well.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Marko Milivojevic
> >> >>> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Well... it's actually very easy to remember. MST (802.1s)
> *requires*
> >> >>>> use of 802.1w. MST has "s" in it, the other one doesn't ;-)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >> >>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 15:50, Poplawski, James
> >> >>>> <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> > Thanks for your advice.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > The other one is a great way, but when you hit RSTP (802.1w)
> versus
> >> >>>> > MSTP
> >> >>>> > (802.1s), you freak out and double-check.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Using the DOCCD and browsing the WAN-Frame Relay section you're
> >> >>>> > able to
> >> >>>> > do a search (Ctrl+F) and search 1490.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Hope this helps,
> >> >>>> > JB
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> > From: Muzammil Malick [mailto:malickmuz_at_gmail.com]
> >> >>>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:43 AM
> >> >>>> > To: Oskar
> >> >>>> > Cc: Marko Milivojevic; Poplawski, James; --Hammer--; CCIE Group
> >> >>>> > Study
> >> >>>> > Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > James
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Going back to your original email. As someone who has been there
> >> >>>> > and
> >> >>>> > experienced the same issues as you, I would say that regarding
> >> >>>> > small
> >> >>>> > things such as RFC values and 802.xyz issues, its just one of
> those
> >> >>>> > things that you just have to nail.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > For me this has always been a non issue because when i took the
> lab
> >> >>>> > I
> >> >>>> > had to do OEQs so I ended up learning all these things inside out
> >> >>>> > anyways!! B So it doesn't hurt to learn them because
> >> >>>> > in the past people were required to learn them.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Also what I would say is that a lot of the stuff that Cisco
> throws
> >> >>>> > in
> >> >>>> > is along the lines of "Use this type of encapsulation e.g RFC
> 1490
> >> >>>> > they are really saying, don't use the Cisco method or do use the
> >> >>>> > Cisco
> >> >>>> > method. If you are having problems remembering all the details
> just
> >> >>>> > remind yourself that you can either use "cisco" or "the other
> one"
> >> >>>> > Then later on when you have some spare time you can go back and
> >> >>>> > check
> >> >>>> > that you are using the right encapsulation.
> >> >>>> > Im not saying this is a strict rule you should follow, just if
> you
> >> >>>> > are
> >> >>>> > having problems remembering stuff.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Its also great that you passed Troubleshooting because that will
> >> >>>> > give
> >> >>>> > you the confidence to nail TS in the future.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Also the great thing is that you know where your problems lie.
> Some
> >> >>>> > people come out bemused because they thought they had nailed it
> and
> >> >>>> > dont have a clue where they went wrong. Take heart from your
> >> >>>> > position
> >> >>>> > and move on and nail it
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Good luck mate.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > On 20 October 2010 16:06, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >> >>>> >> Marko,
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> I am not saying anything about IPE books. I use other vendor
> >> >>>> >> materials
> >> >>>> >> but I
> >> >>>> >> prefer not to mention the name. My point is that if I MUST know
> >> >>>> >> RFC #s
> >> >>>> >> to
> >> >>>> >> understand the question than I expect the workbook to work that
> >> >>>> >> way
> >> >>>> >> too. My
> >> >>>> >> workbook will not help me in that regard.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Now, what are RFCs to know ?
> >> >>>> >> Is there such list so I can type it in mnemosyne
> >> >>>> >> ( http://www.mnemosyne-proj.org/ ) and hammer it every morning
> ?
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> >>>> >> From: Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
> >> >>>> >> To: Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca>
> >> >>>> >> Cc: "Poplawski, James" <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com>;
> >> >>>> >> --Hammer--
> >> >>>> >> <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>; CCIE Group Study <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >> >>>> >> Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:01:00 AM
> >> >>>> >> Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:40, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca>
> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>> On a serious note, vendors who claim to cover 100% of
> >> >>>> >>> requirements and
> >> >>>> >>>challenge
> >> >>>> >>> students to find a topic not covered in the lab should read
> your
> >> >>>> >>> post
> >> >>>> >>>carefully.
> >> >>>> >>> Their silence is at least "interesting".
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Oskar,
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> What makes you think that we were silent? James complained that
> he
> >> >>>> >> didn't pass, it's not our position to publicly "rub it in", but
> >> >>>> >> rather
> >> >>>> >> to reach out and assist him in getting ready for his next
> attempt
> >> >>>> >> and
> >> >>>> >> the best way to best use the material available to him. Since he
> >> >>>> >> only
> >> >>>> >> mentioned that he had IPexpert material, he can tell you what
> >> >>>> >> IPexpert
> >> >>>> >> did as a response to his e-mail. He didn't use our material for
> >> >>>> >> his
> >> >>>> >> preparation, but I hope he will for his next go - it will
> probably
> >> >>>> >> help him a lot.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Now, I will repeat something often said... Training vendors are
> >> >>>> >> not
> >> >>>> >> passing your lab - you are. We provide the material and we cover
> >> >>>> >> what
> >> >>>> >> we believe is relevant to make you good engineers and experts,
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> >> >>>> >> well
> >> >>>> >> as assist you in passing the lab. You need to use that material,
> >> >>>> >> you
> >> >>>> >> need to read books, articles and RFCs referenced from that
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> >> >>>> >> you want to improve and be well prepared for the lab. There is
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> >> >>>> >>
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