Re: Failed - October 8.

hahahahahahaha

Have you seen mine???????

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:

> Did you have any time to look over our free vLectures on that subject?
> They are recorded and posted here: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>
> Also, all subjects are covered in-depth in all the workbooks included
> in our Blended Learning Solution, not to mention tens of hours of
> audio and video material.
>
> it's all there :-)
>
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> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:37, Poplawski, James
> <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
> > Going through the material enough will have it warped into your head
> enough.
> >
> > I would expect some vendors beef up their Frame Relay and IPv6 Multicast
> training as I could use some more in-depth practice with both.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > JB
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:35 AM
> > To: Poplawski, James
> > Cc: Narbik Kocharians; Muzammil Malick; Oskar; --Hammer--; CCIE Group
> Study
> > Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
> >
> > HA! There you go! Wabbit spanning-tree :-).
> >
> > So, anything else you need help remembering?
> >
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> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> >
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> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:20, Poplawski, James
> > <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
> >> 802.1w as in Rapid or Bugs Bunny fans wabbit!
> >>
> >> First attempt I freaked out, I said 802.1w, I'm 95% sure it's rapid, but
> I better double-check.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:13 AM
> >> To: Narbik Kocharians
> >> Cc: Poplawski, James; Muzammil Malick; Oskar; --Hammer--; CCIE Group
> Study
> >> Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
> >>
> >> That's a constant. You just remember 802.1 and then add the letter "s"
> >> as in mSt, or "w" as in "Whatwasitagain"? ;-)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> >>
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> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:11, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> hahaha
> >>>
> >>> Don't forget that they both have 802 in them as well.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Marko Milivojevic <
> markom_at_ipexpert.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Well... it's actually very easy to remember. MST (802.1s) *requires*
> >>>> use of 802.1w. MST has "s" in it, the other one doesn't ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 15:50, Poplawski, James
> >>>> <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
> >>>> > Thanks for your advice.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The other one is a great way, but when you hit RSTP (802.1w) versus
> MSTP
> >>>> > (802.1s), you freak out and double-check.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Using the DOCCD and browsing the WAN-Frame Relay section you're able
> to
> >>>> > do a search (Ctrl+F) and search 1490.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Hope this helps,
> >>>> > JB
> >>>> >
> >>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>>> > From: Muzammil Malick [mailto:malickmuz_at_gmail.com]
> >>>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:43 AM
> >>>> > To: Oskar
> >>>> > Cc: Marko Milivojevic; Poplawski, James; --Hammer--; CCIE Group
> Study
> >>>> > Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > James
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Going back to your original email. As someone who has been there and
> >>>> > experienced the same issues as you, I would say that regarding small
> >>>> > things such as RFC values and 802.xyz issues, its just one of those
> >>>> > things that you just have to nail.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > For me this has always been a non issue because when i took the lab
> I
> >>>> > had to do OEQs so I ended up learning all these things inside out
> >>>> > anyways!! B So it doesn't hurt to learn them because
> >>>> > in the past people were required to learn them.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Also what I would say is that a lot of the stuff that Cisco throws
> in
> >>>> > is along the lines of "Use this type of encapsulation e.g RFC 1490
> >>>> > they are really saying, don't use the Cisco method or do use the
> Cisco
> >>>> > method. If you are having problems remembering all the details just
> >>>> > remind yourself that you can either use "cisco" or "the other one"
> >>>> > Then later on when you have some spare time you can go back and
> check
> >>>> > that you are using the right encapsulation.
> >>>> > Im not saying this is a strict rule you should follow, just if you
> are
> >>>> > having problems remembering stuff.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Its also great that you passed Troubleshooting because that will
> give
> >>>> > you the confidence to nail TS in the future.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Also the great thing is that you know where your problems lie. Some
> >>>> > people come out bemused because they thought they had nailed it and
> >>>> > dont have a clue where they went wrong. Take heart from your
> position
> >>>> > and move on and nail it
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Good luck mate.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 20 October 2010 16:06, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>>> >> Marko,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I am not saying anything about IPE books. I use other vendor
> materials
> >>>> >> but I
> >>>> >> prefer not to mention the name. My point is that if I MUST know RFC
> #s
> >>>> >> to
> >>>> >> understand the question than I expect the workbook to work that way
> >>>> >> too. My
> >>>> >> workbook will not help me in that regard.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Now, what are RFCs to know ?
> >>>> >> Is there such list so I can type it in mnemosyne
> >>>> >> ( http://www.mnemosyne-proj.org/ ) and hammer it every morning ?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>> >> From: Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
> >>>> >> To: Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca>
> >>>> >> Cc: "Poplawski, James" <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com>;
> --Hammer--
> >>>> >> <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>; CCIE Group Study <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >>>> >> Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:01:00 AM
> >>>> >> Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:40, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>>> >>> On a serious note, vendors who claim to cover 100% of requirements
> and
> >>>> >>>challenge
> >>>> >>> students to find a topic not covered in the lab should read your
> post
> >>>> >>>carefully.
> >>>> >>> Their silence is at least "interesting".
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Oskar,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> What makes you think that we were silent? James complained that he
> >>>> >> didn't pass, it's not our position to publicly "rub it in", but
> rather
> >>>> >> to reach out and assist him in getting ready for his next attempt
> and
> >>>> >> the best way to best use the material available to him. Since he
> only
> >>>> >> mentioned that he had IPexpert material, he can tell you what
> IPexpert
> >>>> >> did as a response to his e-mail. He didn't use our material for his
> >>>> >> preparation, but I hope he will for his next go - it will probably
> >>>> >> help him a lot.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Now, I will repeat something often said... Training vendors are not
> >>>> >> passing your lab - you are. We provide the material and we cover
> what
> >>>> >> we believe is relevant to make you good engineers and experts, as
> well
> >>>> >> as assist you in passing the lab. You need to use that material,
> you
> >>>> >> need to read books, articles and RFCs referenced from that material
> if
> >>>> >> you want to improve and be well prepared for the lab. There is no
> >>>> >> replacement for YOUR work!
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> --
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