Re: Failed - October 8.

I actually fail to see what was so funny in the message I posted?

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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 17:31, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> hahahahahahaha
>
> Have you seen mine???????
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Did you have any time to look over our free vLectures on that subject?
>> They are recorded and posted here: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>>
>> Also, all subjects are covered in-depth in all the workbooks included
>> in our Blended Learning Solution, not to mention tens of hours of
>> audio and video material.
>>
>> it's all there :-)
>>
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>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:37, Poplawski, James
>> <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
>> > Going through the material enough will have it warped into your head
>> > enough.
>> >
>> > I would expect some vendors beef up their Frame Relay and IPv6 Multicast
>> > training as I could use some more in-depth practice with both.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > JB
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:35 AM
>> > To: Poplawski, James
>> > Cc: Narbik Kocharians; Muzammil Malick; Oskar; --Hammer--; CCIE Group
>> > Study
>> > Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>> >
>> > HA! There you go! Wabbit spanning-tree :-).
>> >
>> > So, anything else you need help remembering?
>> >
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>> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
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>> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:20, Poplawski, James
>> > <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
>> >> 802.1w as in Rapid or Bugs Bunny fans wabbit!
>> >>
>> >> First attempt I freaked out, I said 802.1w, I'm 95% sure it's rapid,
>> >> but I better double-check.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:13 AM
>> >> To: Narbik Kocharians
>> >> Cc: Poplawski, James; Muzammil Malick; Oskar; --Hammer--; CCIE Group
>> >> Study
>> >> Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>> >>
>> >> That's a constant. You just remember 802.1 and then add the letter "s"
>> >> as in mSt, or "w" as in "Whatwasitagain"? ;-)
>> >>
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>> >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
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>> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:11, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> hahaha
>> >>>
>> >>> Don't forget that they both have 802 in them as well.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Marko Milivojevic
>> >>> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Well... it's actually very easy to remember. MST (802.1s) *requires*
>> >>>> use of 802.1w. MST has "s" in it, the other one doesn't ;-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
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>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 15:50, Poplawski, James
>> >>>> <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
>> >>>> > Thanks for your advice.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > The other one is a great way, but when you hit RSTP (802.1w) versus
>> >>>> > MSTP
>> >>>> > (802.1s), you freak out and double-check.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Using the DOCCD and browsing the WAN-Frame Relay section you're
>> >>>> > able to
>> >>>> > do a search (Ctrl+F) and search 1490.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Hope this helps,
>> >>>> > JB
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> > From: Muzammil Malick [mailto:malickmuz_at_gmail.com]
>> >>>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:43 AM
>> >>>> > To: Oskar
>> >>>> > Cc: Marko Milivojevic; Poplawski, James; --Hammer--; CCIE Group
>> >>>> > Study
>> >>>> > Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > James
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Going back to your original email. As someone who has been there
>> >>>> > and
>> >>>> > experienced the same issues as you, I would say that regarding
>> >>>> > small
>> >>>> > things such as RFC values and 802.xyz issues, its just one of those
>> >>>> > things that you just have to nail.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > For me this has always been a non issue because when i took the lab
>> >>>> > I
>> >>>> > had to do OEQs so I ended up learning all these things inside out
>> >>>> > anyways!! B So it doesn't hurt to learn them because
>> >>>> > in the past people were required to learn them.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Also what I would say is that a lot of the stuff that Cisco throws
>> >>>> > in
>> >>>> > is along the lines of "Use this type of encapsulation e.g RFC 1490
>> >>>> > they are really saying, don't use the Cisco method or do use the
>> >>>> > Cisco
>> >>>> > method. If you are having problems remembering all the details just
>> >>>> > remind yourself that you can either use "cisco" or "the other one"
>> >>>> > Then later on when you have some spare time you can go back and
>> >>>> > check
>> >>>> > that you are using the right encapsulation.
>> >>>> > Im not saying this is a strict rule you should follow, just if you
>> >>>> > are
>> >>>> > having problems remembering stuff.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Its also great that you passed Troubleshooting because that will
>> >>>> > give
>> >>>> > you the confidence to nail TS in the future.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Also the great thing is that you know where your problems lie. Some
>> >>>> > people come out bemused because they thought they had nailed it and
>> >>>> > dont have a clue where they went wrong. Take heart from your
>> >>>> > position
>> >>>> > and move on and nail it
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Good luck mate.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On 20 October 2010 16:06, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >>>> >> Marko,
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> I am not saying anything about IPE books. I use other vendor
>> >>>> >> materials
>> >>>> >> but I
>> >>>> >> prefer not to mention the name. My point is that if I MUST know
>> >>>> >> RFC #s
>> >>>> >> to
>> >>>> >> understand the question than I expect the workbook to work that
>> >>>> >> way
>> >>>> >> too. My
>> >>>> >> workbook will not help me in that regard.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Now, what are RFCs to know ?
>> >>>> >> Is there such list so I can type it in mnemosyne
>> >>>> >> ( http://www.mnemosyne-proj.org/ ) and hammer it every morning ?
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----
>> >>>> >> From: Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>> >>>> >> To: Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca>
>> >>>> >> Cc: "Poplawski, James" <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com>;
>> >>>> >> --Hammer--
>> >>>> >> <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>; CCIE Group Study <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> >>>> >> Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:01:00 AM
>> >>>> >> Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:40, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >>>> >>> On a serious note, vendors who claim to cover 100% of
>> >>>> >>> requirements and
>> >>>> >>>challenge
>> >>>> >>> students to find a topic not covered in the lab should read your
>> >>>> >>> post
>> >>>> >>>carefully.
>> >>>> >>> Their silence is at least "interesting".
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Oskar,
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> What makes you think that we were silent? James complained that he
>> >>>> >> didn't pass, it's not our position to publicly "rub it in", but
>> >>>> >> rather
>> >>>> >> to reach out and assist him in getting ready for his next attempt
>> >>>> >> and
>> >>>> >> the best way to best use the material available to him. Since he
>> >>>> >> only
>> >>>> >> mentioned that he had IPexpert material, he can tell you what
>> >>>> >> IPexpert
>> >>>> >> did as a response to his e-mail. He didn't use our material for
>> >>>> >> his
>> >>>> >> preparation, but I hope he will for his next go - it will probably
>> >>>> >> help him a lot.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Now, I will repeat something often said... Training vendors are
>> >>>> >> not
>> >>>> >> passing your lab - you are. We provide the material and we cover
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>> >>>> >> as assist you in passing the lab. You need to use that material,
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>> >>>> >> need to read books, articles and RFCs referenced from that
>> >>>> >> material if
>> >>>> >> you want to improve and be well prepared for the lab. There is no
>> >>>> >> replacement for YOUR work!
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> --
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