Re: Failed - October 8.

Marko,

I was not laughing at you.

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Me 2
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
>
>> I actually fail to see what was so funny in the message I posted?
>>
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>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 17:31, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > hahahahahahaha
>> >
>> > Have you seen mine???????
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Marko Milivojevic <
>> markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Did you have any time to look over our free vLectures on that subject?
>> >> They are recorded and posted here: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>> >>
>> >> Also, all subjects are covered in-depth in all the workbooks included
>> >> in our Blended Learning Solution, not to mention tens of hours of
>> >> audio and video material.
>> >>
>> >> it's all there :-)
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:37, Poplawski, James
>> >> <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
>> >> > Going through the material enough will have it warped into your head
>> >> > enough.
>> >> >
>> >> > I would expect some vendors beef up their Frame Relay and IPv6
>> Multicast
>> >> > training as I could use some more in-depth practice with both.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > JB
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:35 AM
>> >> > To: Poplawski, James
>> >> > Cc: Narbik Kocharians; Muzammil Malick; Oskar; --Hammer--; CCIE Group
>> >> > Study
>> >> > Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>> >> >
>> >> > HA! There you go! Wabbit spanning-tree :-).
>> >> >
>> >> > So, anything else you need help remembering?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> >> > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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>> >> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:20, Poplawski, James
>> >> > <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
>> >> >> 802.1w as in Rapid or Bugs Bunny fans wabbit!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> First attempt I freaked out, I said 802.1w, I'm 95% sure it's rapid,
>> >> >> but I better double-check.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:13 AM
>> >> >> To: Narbik Kocharians
>> >> >> Cc: Poplawski, James; Muzammil Malick; Oskar; --Hammer--; CCIE Group
>> >> >> Study
>> >> >> Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That's a constant. You just remember 802.1 and then add the letter
>> "s"
>> >> >> as in mSt, or "w" as in "Whatwasitagain"? ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> >> >> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:11, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
>> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> hahaha
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Don't forget that they both have 802 in them as well.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Marko Milivojevic
>> >> >>> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Well... it's actually very easy to remember. MST (802.1s)
>> *requires*
>> >> >>>> use of 802.1w. MST has "s" in it, the other one doesn't ;-)
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> >> >>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
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>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 15:50, Poplawski, James
>> >> >>>> <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>> > Thanks for your advice.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > The other one is a great way, but when you hit RSTP (802.1w)
>> versus
>> >> >>>> > MSTP
>> >> >>>> > (802.1s), you freak out and double-check.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > Using the DOCCD and browsing the WAN-Frame Relay section you're
>> >> >>>> > able to
>> >> >>>> > do a search (Ctrl+F) and search 1490.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > Hope this helps,
>> >> >>>> > JB
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>>> > From: Muzammil Malick [mailto:malickmuz_at_gmail.com]
>> >> >>>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:43 AM
>> >> >>>> > To: Oskar
>> >> >>>> > Cc: Marko Milivojevic; Poplawski, James; --Hammer--; CCIE Group
>> >> >>>> > Study
>> >> >>>> > Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > James
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > Going back to your original email. As someone who has been there
>> >> >>>> > and
>> >> >>>> > experienced the same issues as you, I would say that regarding
>> >> >>>> > small
>> >> >>>> > things such as RFC values and 802.xyz issues, its just one of
>> those
>> >> >>>> > things that you just have to nail.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > For me this has always been a non issue because when i took the
>> lab
>> >> >>>> > I
>> >> >>>> > had to do OEQs so I ended up learning all these things inside
>> out
>> >> >>>> > anyways!! B So it doesn't hurt to learn them because
>> >> >>>> > in the past people were required to learn them.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > Also what I would say is that a lot of the stuff that Cisco
>> throws
>> >> >>>> > in
>> >> >>>> > is along the lines of "Use this type of encapsulation e.g RFC
>> 1490
>> >> >>>> > they are really saying, don't use the Cisco method or do use the
>> >> >>>> > Cisco
>> >> >>>> > method. If you are having problems remembering all the details
>> just
>> >> >>>> > remind yourself that you can either use "cisco" or "the other
>> one"
>> >> >>>> > Then later on when you have some spare time you can go back and
>> >> >>>> > check
>> >> >>>> > that you are using the right encapsulation.
>> >> >>>> > Im not saying this is a strict rule you should follow, just if
>> you
>> >> >>>> > are
>> >> >>>> > having problems remembering stuff.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > Its also great that you passed Troubleshooting because that will
>> >> >>>> > give
>> >> >>>> > you the confidence to nail TS in the future.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > Also the great thing is that you know where your problems lie.
>> Some
>> >> >>>> > people come out bemused because they thought they had nailed it
>> and
>> >> >>>> > dont have a clue where they went wrong. Take heart from your
>> >> >>>> > position
>> >> >>>> > and move on and nail it
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > Good luck mate.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > On 20 October 2010 16:06, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> Marko,
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> I am not saying anything about IPE books. I use other vendor
>> >> >>>> >> materials
>> >> >>>> >> but I
>> >> >>>> >> prefer not to mention the name. My point is that if I MUST know
>> >> >>>> >> RFC #s
>> >> >>>> >> to
>> >> >>>> >> understand the question than I expect the workbook to work that
>> >> >>>> >> way
>> >> >>>> >> too. My
>> >> >>>> >> workbook will not help me in that regard.
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> Now, what are RFCs to know ?
>> >> >>>> >> Is there such list so I can type it in mnemosyne
>> >> >>>> >> ( http://www.mnemosyne-proj.org/ ) and hammer it every morning
>> ?
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----
>> >> >>>> >> From: Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>> >> >>>> >> To: Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca>
>> >> >>>> >> Cc: "Poplawski, James" <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com>;
>> >> >>>> >> --Hammer--
>> >> >>>> >> <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>; CCIE Group Study <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> >> >>>> >> Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:01:00 AM
>> >> >>>> >> Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:40, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >>> On a serious note, vendors who claim to cover 100% of
>> >> >>>> >>> requirements and
>> >> >>>> >>>challenge
>> >> >>>> >>> students to find a topic not covered in the lab should read
>> your
>> >> >>>> >>> post
>> >> >>>> >>>carefully.
>> >> >>>> >>> Their silence is at least "interesting".
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> Oskar,
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> What makes you think that we were silent? James complained that
>> he
>> >> >>>> >> didn't pass, it's not our position to publicly "rub it in", but
>> >> >>>> >> rather
>> >> >>>> >> to reach out and assist him in getting ready for his next
>> attempt
>> >> >>>> >> and
>> >> >>>> >> the best way to best use the material available to him. Since
>> he
>> >> >>>> >> only
>> >> >>>> >> mentioned that he had IPexpert material, he can tell you what
>> >> >>>> >> IPexpert
>> >> >>>> >> did as a response to his e-mail. He didn't use our material for
>> >> >>>> >> his
>> >> >>>> >> preparation, but I hope he will for his next go - it will
>> probably
>> >> >>>> >> help him a lot.
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> Now, I will repeat something often said... Training vendors are
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>> >> >>>> >> passing your lab - you are. We provide the material and we
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