RE: Written Exam and troubleshooting

It has nothing to do with insecurity but rather the fact that you are being
absolutely rude for no reason. Did I slander the group of CCIEs on here ? No,
you did. Did I claim to know why Cisco added troubleshooting back in? No, you
did. If you recall they did used to have troubleshooting on the 2 Day format
however it was a different format.

So, what's your ccie number?

Travis

> Subject: Re: Written Exam and troubleshooting
> From: abrayton_at_gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 16:47:56 -0400
> CC: kagahian_at_ccbootcamp.com; john.lockie_at_gmail.com;
charles.t.alexander_at_verizon.net; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> To: niedentj_at_hotmail.com
>
> I was expecting a few insecure individual's to write something like you
have.
> I meant it 100% and I didn't say every CCIE on here, I said MOST! I also
> didn't say it as a bad thing, just something that most lacked. Just because
> someone has a CCIE number, by no means doe's that indicate that individual
has
> any skill in troubleshooting?
>
> Do you really think that Cisco brought back the Troubleshooting portion
just
> because they didn't have anything better to do? Please with all of your
> infinite wisdom, enlighten us on why you think they invested all that money
to
> bring back the troubleshooting portion of the lab!
>
>
>
> On May 25, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Travis Niedens wrote:
>
> > "most of the ccies on this list don't have the skills needed to be good
at
> troubleshooting" ..... Did you seriously just send that out and actually
mean
> it? Have you personally evaluated the troubleshooting skills of every ccie
on
> here? Who are you to evaluate even? Did Cisco give you this great nugget of
> knowledge and you just couldn't help but sharing it with us? A very lame
> comment indeed. what's your ccie #? Travis
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrian Brayton
> > Sent: 5/25/2010 7:30:58 PM
> > To: Kambiz Agahian
> > Cc: John Lockie , Charles T. Alexander , ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Written Exam and troubleshooting
> > A decent book is "Troubleshooting IP Routing Protocols", you can find it
on
> E-Bay...
> >
> > Just remember that troubleshooting is not something that you can just
read
> and be done with it... Its a methodology in how you approach things! Most
of
> the CCIE's on this list don't have the skill's needed to be good at
> troubleshooting thus the reason that Cisco brought it back to the lab. You
> wont get the skill from just working on labs either as I had thought, you
need
> to practice it just as you would any other topic on the lab.
> >
> > As I had said before, it might only be 25% of the lab but it's 50% of the
> exam!
> >
> > Good Luck!
> >
> >
> > On May 25, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Kambiz Agahian wrote:
> >
> > > Charles,
> > >
> > > Believe it or not but I see a great chance of success for the students
> > > with failed written attempts on their lab exams! Why? Because you're
> > > truly doing your best, taking the test and what you've got is exactly
> > > what you ran for. Now you know your weaknesses "truly". Frankly, That's
> > > why you see all those folks with the written 1000/1000 and stuck on
> > > their 5th lab attempt. You're not going to be one of them.
> > >
> > > Please don't feel discouraged; you're on the right track mate.
> > >
> > > We do have a written workbook with heaps of questions - that may help;
> > > you might wish to give it a shot but anyway you're now building your
lab
> > > foundation and not just wasting your time - not a problem.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > --------------------------
> > > Kambiz Agahian
> > > CCIE (R&S), CCSI, WAASSE, RSSSE
> > > Technical Instructor
> > > CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > John Lockie
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:34 AM
> > > To: Charles T. Alexander; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: Written Exam and troubleshooting
> > >
> > > Another argument for doing lab prep only, and then taking the written
> > > only
> > > when you are ready for the lab (or feel ready) :-)
> > >
> > > Regarding books, this probably depends on what you are looking to
> > > troubleshoot!
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/25/10 11:20 AM, "Charles T. Alexander"
> > > <charles.t.alexander_at_verizon.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I failed the written exam. I have read all the usual books such as
> > > Odom.
> > >> The exam really has a lot more troubleshooing, or at least that is my
> > >> take on it. Is there a good book(s) on this?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > >>
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