Re: Written Exam and troubleshooting

I was expecting a few insecure individual's to write something like you have.
I meant it 100% and I didn't say every CCIE on here, I said MOST! I also
didn't say it as a bad thing, just something that most lacked. Just because
someone has a CCIE number, by no means doe's that indicate that individual has
any skill in troubleshooting?

Do you really think that Cisco brought back the Troubleshooting portion just
because they didn't have anything better to do? Please with all of your
infinite wisdom, enlighten us on why you think they invested all that money to
bring back the troubleshooting portion of the lab!

On May 25, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Travis Niedens wrote:

> "most of the ccies on this list don't have the skills needed to be good at
troubleshooting" ..... Did you seriously just send that out and actually mean
it? Have you personally evaluated the troubleshooting skills of every ccie on
here? Who are you to evaluate even? Did Cisco give you this great nugget of
knowledge and you just couldn't help but sharing it with us? A very lame
comment indeed. what's your ccie #? Travis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Brayton
> Sent: 5/25/2010 7:30:58 PM
> To: Kambiz Agahian
> Cc: John Lockie , Charles T. Alexander , ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Written Exam and troubleshooting
> A decent book is "Troubleshooting IP Routing Protocols", you can find it on
E-Bay...
>
> Just remember that troubleshooting is not something that you can just read
and be done with it... Its a methodology in how you approach things! Most of
the CCIE's on this list don't have the skill's needed to be good at
troubleshooting thus the reason that Cisco brought it back to the lab. You
wont get the skill from just working on labs either as I had thought, you need
to practice it just as you would any other topic on the lab.
>
> As I had said before, it might only be 25% of the lab but it's 50% of the
exam!
>
> Good Luck!
>
>
> On May 25, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Kambiz Agahian wrote:
>
> > Charles,
> >
> > Believe it or not but I see a great chance of success for the students
> > with failed written attempts on their lab exams! Why? Because you're
> > truly doing your best, taking the test and what you've got is exactly
> > what you ran for. Now you know your weaknesses "truly". Frankly, That's
> > why you see all those folks with the written 1000/1000 and stuck on
> > their 5th lab attempt. You're not going to be one of them.
> >
> > Please don't feel discouraged; you're on the right track mate.
> >
> > We do have a written workbook with heaps of questions - that may help;
> > you might wish to give it a shot but anyway you're now building your lab
> > foundation and not just wasting your time - not a problem.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > --------------------------
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> > CCIE (R&S), CCSI, WAASSE, RSSSE
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > John Lockie
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:34 AM
> > To: Charles T. Alexander; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Written Exam and troubleshooting
> >
> > Another argument for doing lab prep only, and then taking the written
> > only
> > when you are ready for the lab (or feel ready) :-)
> >
> > Regarding books, this probably depends on what you are looking to
> > troubleshoot!
> >
> >
> > On 5/25/10 11:20 AM, "Charles T. Alexander"
> > <charles.t.alexander_at_verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I failed the written exam. I have read all the usual books such as
> > Odom.
> >> The exam really has a lot more troubleshooing, or at least that is my
> >> take on it. Is there a good book(s) on this?
> >>
> >>
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