RE: Planning a bootcamp

You can select it but from previous experience they will reject the
scheduling request. I did this when I was working on my SP recently.
Unless something has changed very recently.

Regards,
 
Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: petrsoft_at_gmail.com [mailto:petrsoft_at_gmail.com] On Behalf Of Petr
Lapukhov
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:42 PM
To: Tyson Scott
Cc: Kambiz Agahian; john matijevic; Anthony Sequeira; Joe Astorino; Scott
Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Planning a bootcamp

Surprisingly enough, I just opened CCIE lab scheduler and found I can
select the CCIE R&S lab again. Didn't try other labs, as I have to
re-login using my other written lab date and score, etc. However, as
for recertification I'd rather take the written test (looking for CCDE
written), as paying $350 out of my pocket seems more reasonable than
$1400. Why fun is always expensive?! ;)

PS
I went as far as "credit card payment" where I reasonably decided to stop :)

2010/5/12 Tyson Scott <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>:
> Taking the lab of another CCIE track can renew a previous CCIE you have.
 We
> have asked in the past. You are not allowed to take the same exam again
> unless you let your certification lapse. Who wants to do that ;)
>
> Anthony was spot on.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Kambiz Agahian
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:09 AM
> To: john matijevic; Anthony Sequeira
> Cc: Joe Astorino; Scott Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
> Subject: RE: Planning a bootcamp
>
> Guys,
>
> I'd open a case with the Cert support team to verify my interpretation.
> In cases like this no one wants to take a risk.
>
> HTH
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.c
> om] On Behalf Of john matijevic
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:57 PM
> To: Anthony Sequeira
> Cc: Joe Astorino; Scott Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Planning a bootcamp
>
> Anthony,
> According to Cisco website again:
>
> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/recert/index.html
>
>
> CCIEs Are Required to Recertify Every Two Years
> Active CCIE status shows your commitment to maintaining expert-level
> knowledge in an industry critical to the success of virtually every
> organization. CCIEs are encouraged to continually expand their technical
> knowledge and are required to* pass a recertification exam* every two
> years.
> If you do not complete your recertification before the deadlines, your
> CCIE
> certification will be suspended and you and your employer will lose the
> benefits associated with your expert status. You have one year to
> reinstate
> your CCIE status before you becomes inactive and must begin the
> certification process all over again.
>
> To maintain active status, every 24 months CCIEs are required to pass
> one of
> the following: any CCIE written exam of their choosing, a CCIE lab exam,
> or
> either of the CCDE exams.
>
> If you can provide documentation stating otherwise this is directly
> from
> Cisco's website and applies to all CCIE tracks.
>
> I personnaly believe that CCIE should have to recertify by taking the
> lab
> again. Probably would eliminate many becuase of the cost but in the end
> I
> believe you will have stronger engineers, and since the lab exam topics
> are
> closely related to job functions of Senior level engineer.
>
> But if you can provide documentation stating otherwise. I would have to
> go
> by what Cisco has documented on the website, unless they posted
> inaccurate
> information.
>
> Warm regards,
> John Matijevic
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
> wrote:
>> The lab exam you are referring to is in another track.
>>
>> So - the only way that I can take the R&S exam again is to let my R&S
> certification expire.
>>
>>
>> On May 11, 2010, at 11:39 PM, john matijevic wrote:
>>
>>> Good Evening Gentlemen,
>>> As a former CCIE that is currently in process of recertification.
>>>
>>> First off I would like to correct Mr. Anthony Sequeira.
>>> As stated in earlier thread.
>>> "Once we pass the lab exam for a track, we are not permitted to take
> the
>>> lab exam again"
>>>
>>> According to Cisco recertification documenation:
>>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/recert/index.html
>>> Recertification Details
>>> To maintain active status, every 24 months CCIEs are required to
> pass
>>> one of the following: any CCIE written exam of their choosing, a CCIE
>>> lab exam, or either of the CCDE exams.
>>>
>>> It appears that a CCIE can recertify by passing the lab again.
>>>
>>> Im not implying or trying to say that you should go by weather there
>>> is a current CCIE with a training vendor, I agree with the other
> folks
>>> in saying that there are many great instructors as I have been a
>>> student of many on this list. I will be more active as I will have to
>>> retake the written and the lab exam again.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> John Matijevic
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Joe Astorino
> <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
> wrote:
>>>> As usual, I agree 100% with what Scott is saying. No vendor or
> person
>>>> is going to hand you a CCIE. We can all help provide you with
>>>> materials and great training that will allow you to acquire the
> skills
>>>> necessary to earn one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
> wrote:
>>>>> Passing the lab today versus last year versus 10 years ago has
> nothing
>>>>> to do with whether they know what they are doing.
>>>>>
>>>>> And that's the point in that it shouldn't be part of the criteria!
>>>>>
>>>>> Marko is a great guy, and very bright... NO doubt about that. but
> he's
>>>>> not going to teach you the "exam", he's going to teach you the
>>>>> technologies and how to work through them so that YOU can pass the
> lab.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the same thing that I would do. It's the same thing Anthony
> would
>>>>> do. It's the same thing Narbik would do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Experience, as you noted, is a good thing to look at! And, this is
>>>>> Marko's second CCIE anyway. But I think he was smart before he got
> his
>>>>> first one! ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles Carmichael wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand what you're saying Anthony. I respect experience,
> that's
> why I
>>>>> mentioned Mr. Morris. But I am confused. Do you mean that
> someone
> that has
>>>>> just passed doesn't know what they are doing? I just want the
> most
> current
>>>>> training that will be relevant to me. I'm sure the intentions
> either
> way
>>>>> are best. Also, can someone tell me when Scott Morris will be
> teaching the
>>>>> next routing and switching bootcamp.
>>>>>
>>>>> Danke,
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Anthony Sequeira
> <asequeira_at_ine.com>
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Charles!
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions
> regarding
> the
>>>>> INE materials or more specifically, the bootcamp.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that basing this very important decision on which
> organization has
>>>>> instructors that are so new to the Routing and Switching track
> that
> they
>>>>> have passed since October 19th, 2009 is not the correct
> approach.
>>>>>
>>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
>>>>> Senior CCIE Instructor http://www.INE.com
>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>>> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>>>>> Outside US: 775-826-4344
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 11, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Charles Carmichael wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am planning on a bootcamp in Germany Area. I am looking at
> IPexpert
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> INE. I can travel abroad if needed. My question is, what
> bootcamp
>>>>>
>>>>> should I
>>>>>
>>>>> take? I have heard that IPexpert is the only company that has
> instructor
>>>>> which has passed the new version of CCIE lab but I like Scott
> Morris and
>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>> think he owns INE or something. Any recommendations?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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