Re: Planning a bootcamp

Wonder if it worth paying $1400 to see the request being rejected or approved :)

2010/5/12 Tyson Scott <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>:
> You can select it but from previous experience they will reject the
> scheduling request. I did this when I was working on my SP recently.
> Unless something has changed very recently.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: petrsoft_at_gmail.com [mailto:petrsoft_at_gmail.com] On Behalf Of Petr
> Lapukhov
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:42 PM
> To: Tyson Scott
> Cc: Kambiz Agahian; john matijevic; Anthony Sequeira; Joe Astorino; Scott
> Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Planning a bootcamp
>
> Surprisingly enough, I just opened CCIE lab scheduler and found I can
> select the CCIE R&S lab again. Didn't try other labs, as I have to
> re-login using my other written lab date and score, etc. However, as
> for recertification I'd rather take the written test (looking for CCDE
> written), as paying $350 out of my pocket seems more reasonable than
> $1400. Why fun is always expensive?! ;)
>
> PS
> I went as far as "credit card payment" where I reasonably decided to stop :)
>
> 2010/5/12 Tyson Scott <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>:
>> Taking the lab of another CCIE track can renew a previous CCIE you have.
> We
>> have asked in the past. You are not allowed to take the same exam again
>> unless you let your certification lapse. Who wants to do that ;)
>>
>> Anthony was spot on.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Kambiz Agahian
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:09 AM
>> To: john matijevic; Anthony Sequeira
>> Cc: Joe Astorino; Scott Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
>> Subject: RE: Planning a bootcamp
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> I'd open a case with the Cert support team to verify my interpretation.
>> In cases like this no one wants to take a risk.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>
>> --------------------------
>> Kambiz Agahian
>> CCIE (R&S), CCSI, WAASSE, RSSSE
>> Technical Instructor
>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>> Email: kagahian_at_ccbootcamp.com
>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
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>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
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>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.c
>> om] On Behalf Of john matijevic
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:57 PM
>> To: Anthony Sequeira
>> Cc: Joe Astorino; Scott Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
>> Subject: Re: Planning a bootcamp
>>
>> Anthony,
>> According to Cisco website again:
>>
>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/recert/index.html
>>
>>
>> CCIEs Are Required to Recertify Every Two Years
>> Active CCIE status shows your commitment to maintaining expert-level
>> knowledge in an industry critical to the success of virtually every
>> organization. CCIEs are encouraged to continually expand their technical
>> knowledge and are required to* pass a recertification exam* every two
>> years.
>> If you do not complete your recertification before the deadlines, your
>> CCIE
>> certification will be suspended and you and your employer will lose the
>> benefits associated with your expert status. You have one year to
>> reinstate
>> your CCIE status before you becomes inactive and must begin the
>> certification process all over again.
>>
>> To maintain active status, every 24 months CCIEs are required to pass
>> one of
>> the following: any CCIE written exam of their choosing, a CCIE lab exam,
>> or
>> either of the CCDE exams.
>>
>> If you can provide documentation stating otherwise this is directly
>> from
>> Cisco's website and applies to all CCIE tracks.
>>
>> I personnaly believe that CCIE should have to recertify by taking the
>> lab
>> again. Probably would eliminate many becuase of the cost but in the end
>> I
>> believe you will have stronger engineers, and since the lab exam topics
>> are
>> closely related to job functions of Senior level engineer.
>>
>> But if you can provide documentation stating otherwise. I would have to
>> go
>> by what Cisco has documented on the website, unless they posted
>> inaccurate
>> information.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> John Matijevic
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
>> wrote:
>>> The lab exam you are referring to is in another track.
>>>
>>> So - the only way that I can take the R&S exam again is to let my R&S
>> certification expire.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 11, 2010, at 11:39 PM, john matijevic wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good Evening Gentlemen,
>>>> As a former CCIE that is currently in process of recertification.
>>>>
>>>> First off I would like to correct Mr. Anthony Sequeira.
>>>> As stated in earlier thread.
>>>> "Once we pass the lab exam for a track, we are not permitted to take
>> the
>>>> lab exam again"
>>>>
>>>> According to Cisco recertification documenation:
>>>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/recert/index.html
>>>> Recertification Details
>>>> To maintain active status, every 24 months CCIEs are required to
>> pass
>>>> one of the following: any CCIE written exam of their choosing, a CCIE
>>>> lab exam, or either of the CCDE exams.
>>>>
>>>> It appears that a CCIE can recertify by passing the lab again.
>>>>
>>>> Im not implying or trying to say that you should go by weather there
>>>> is a current CCIE with a training vendor, I agree with the other
>> folks
>>>> in saying that there are many great instructors as I have been a
>>>> student of many on this list. I will be more active as I will have to
>>>> retake the written and the lab exam again.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> John Matijevic
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Joe Astorino
>> <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> As usual, I agree 100% with what Scott is saying. No vendor or
>> person
>>>>> is going to hand you a CCIE. We can all help provide you with
>>>>> materials and great training that will allow you to acquire the
>> skills
>>>>> necessary to earn one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> Passing the lab today versus last year versus 10 years ago has
>> nothing
>>>>>> to do with whether they know what they are doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that's the point in that it shouldn't be part of the criteria!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marko is a great guy, and very bright... NO doubt about that. but
>> he's
>>>>>> not going to teach you the "exam", he's going to teach you the
>>>>>> technologies and how to work through them so that YOU can pass the
>> lab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's the same thing that I would do. It's the same thing Anthony
>> would
>>>>>> do. It's the same thing Narbik would do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Experience, as you noted, is a good thing to look at! And, this is
>>>>>> Marko's second CCIE anyway. But I think he was smart before he got
>> his
>>>>>> first one! ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charles Carmichael wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand what you're saying Anthony. I respect experience,
>> that's
>> why I
>>>>>> mentioned Mr. Morris. But I am confused. Do you mean that
>> someone
>> that has
>>>>>> just passed doesn't know what they are doing? I just want the
>> most
>> current
>>>>>> training that will be relevant to me. I'm sure the intentions
>> either
>> way
>>>>>> are best. Also, can someone tell me when Scott Morris will be
>> teaching the
>>>>>> next routing and switching bootcamp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Danke,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Anthony Sequeira
>> <asequeira_at_ine.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Charles!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions
>> regarding
>> the
>>>>>> INE materials or more specifically, the bootcamp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that basing this very important decision on which
>> organization has
>>>>>> instructors that are so new to the Routing and Switching track
>> that
>> they
>>>>>> have passed since October 19th, 2009 is not the correct
>> approach.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
>>>>>> Senior CCIE Instructor http://www.INE.com
>>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>>>> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>>>>>> Outside US: 775-826-4344
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 11, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Charles Carmichael wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am planning on a bootcamp in Germany Area. I am looking at
>> IPexpert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> INE. I can travel abroad if needed. My question is, what
>> bootcamp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> should I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> take? I have heard that IPexpert is the only company that has
>> instructor
>>>>>> which has passed the new version of CCIE lab but I like Scott
>> Morris and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> think he owns INE or something. Any recommendations?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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