RE: OT: CCDE Study

Depends who's paying for the TP and who's paying for the plane ticket!
J

From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris_at_ine.com]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:44 AM
To: Brad Ellis
Cc: Luan Nguyen; Larry H; Ronnie Angello; Cisco certification; Dawn
Tesar
Subject: Re: OT: CCDE Study

I dunno.. A class in an "all telepresence" environment sounds kinda
cool! Sounds more expensive than flying someplace though! ;)

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Brad Ellis wrote:

Luan,

The problem with doing a CCDE bootcamp remotely, is the amount of
student/instructor and student/student interaction that happens. There's
way too much interaction for too long a period of time, too much
whiteboarding, etc. If it were done in an environment where everyone was
in a telepresence room, it would probably work, otherwise, it would be
challenging. If you had no other choice but to attend a CCDE class
remotely, then it's better than no class at all...but I would really
recommend attending a CCDE class in person to get the most out of it.

thanks,
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Luan Nguyen
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:00 AM
To: 'Larry H'; 'Ronnie Angello'
Cc: 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: OT: CCDE Study

Regarding time management, some scenarios are harder and have more
questions
and might be at the beginning, which is great IMO since you are fresher
than
toward the end. You will always have enough time, so just take your time
and
do it right the first time since you can't go back. Some was seen to
finish
in 6 hours!
In the end, though masquerade by scenarios, it's a multiple choices
exam...so yeah, it's just all about thought process...and if you happen
to
think like those design the exam, more power to you. Else, there will
always
be the next one for you to try your luck with the thought process :) I
heard
someone said that CCDE is different from CCIE in that you don't really
have
to prepare for :)
So, IMO, CCDE bootcamp could be great for gearing you toward the right
mindset, especially taught by mister Filliben or anyone else who'd
already
passed, but personally, I would use that money for multiple attempts :)

I think CCDE bootcamp would be more attractive if taught VIRTUALLY, so
people won't have to take time off from work, won't have to pay for
travel/lodging...etc. More people would take the class which will lead
to
lower fee, which will....etc, etc.

--------------------------------
Luan Nguyen
Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC.
-------------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Larry H
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:49 PM
To: Ronnie Angello
Cc: Cisco certification
Subject: Re: OT: CCDE Study

Thanks I will check those out.

Thanks
Larry Hadrava
CCIE #12203

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On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
<mailto:ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
wrote:

        The networkers presentations (routing and MPLS sessions) are
good when
        you need a break from reading - www.ciscolivevirtual.com.

        All of that stuff is good, mainly to stay technically sharp and
build
        your confidence for the exam. The truth is though, once you sit
down
        on exam day, you realize that it's really just all about thought
        process and time management.

        Ronnie

        On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Larry Hadrava
<larryh12203_at_gmail.com> <mailto:larryh12203_at_gmail.com>

wrote:

                Hello Group:
                I am looking for opinions / advice on CCDE study.
                Along with the obligatory book list, what are others
that are working

toward

                CCDE or have passed CCDE used?
                I have a reservation about classroom training for this
track, but

have
not

                ruled it out. I think that what can be passed on in a
classroom

setting

                might be a mindset and way of thinking / reading the
requirements but

the

                knowledge of the protocols and interaction of the
possible solutions

has
to

                be something that comes from actual design /
implementation

experience.

                Besides CLN - does anyone know of any other CCDE
specific groups /

lists?

                Thanks
                Larry Hadrava
                CCIE #12203
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