Re: OT: CCDE Study

that mean a candidate must work for a company which needs a CCDE. Otherways
he must handle whatever CCDE certification requires :)

Aytac Karameseoglu
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On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:

> Depends who's paying for the TP and who's paying for the plane ticket!
> J
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> From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris_at_ine.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:44 AM
> To: Brad Ellis
> Cc: Luan Nguyen; Larry H; Ronnie Angello; Cisco certification; Dawn
> Tesar
> Subject: Re: OT: CCDE Study
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> I dunno.. A class in an "all telepresence" environment sounds kinda
> cool! Sounds more expensive than flying someplace though! ;)
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> Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
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> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
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> Brad Ellis wrote:
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> Luan,
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> The problem with doing a CCDE bootcamp remotely, is the amount of
> student/instructor and student/student interaction that happens. There's
> way too much interaction for too long a period of time, too much
> whiteboarding, etc. If it were done in an environment where everyone was
> in a telepresence room, it would probably work, otherwise, it would be
> challenging. If you had no other choice but to attend a CCDE class
> remotely, then it's better than no class at all...but I would really
> recommend attending a CCDE class in person to get the most out of it.
>
>
> thanks,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Luan Nguyen
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:00 AM
> To: 'Larry H'; 'Ronnie Angello'
> Cc: 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: OT: CCDE Study
>
> Regarding time management, some scenarios are harder and have more
> questions
> and might be at the beginning, which is great IMO since you are fresher
> than
> toward the end. You will always have enough time, so just take your time
> and
> do it right the first time since you can't go back. Some was seen to
> finish
> in 6 hours!
> In the end, though masquerade by scenarios, it's a multiple choices
> exam...so yeah, it's just all about thought process...and if you happen
> to
> think like those design the exam, more power to you. Else, there will
> always
> be the next one for you to try your luck with the thought process :) I
> heard
> someone said that CCDE is different from CCIE in that you don't really
> have
> to prepare for :)
> So, IMO, CCDE bootcamp could be great for gearing you toward the right
> mindset, especially taught by mister Filliben or anyone else who'd
> already
> passed, but personally, I would use that money for multiple attempts :)
>
> I think CCDE bootcamp would be more attractive if taught VIRTUALLY, so
> people won't have to take time off from work, won't have to pay for
> travel/lodging...etc. More people would take the class which will lead
> to
> lower fee, which will....etc, etc.
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> Luan Nguyen
> Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC.
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Larry H
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:49 PM
> To: Ronnie Angello
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: OT: CCDE Study
>
> Thanks I will check those out.
>
> Thanks
> Larry Hadrava
> CCIE #12203
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
> <mailto:ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> The networkers presentations (routing and MPLS sessions) are
> good when
> you need a break from reading - www.ciscolivevirtual.com.
>
> All of that stuff is good, mainly to stay technically sharp and
> build
> your confidence for the exam. The truth is though, once you sit
> down
> on exam day, you realize that it's really just all about thought
> process and time management.
>
> Ronnie
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Larry Hadrava
> <larryh12203_at_gmail.com> <mailto:larryh12203_at_gmail.com>
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> wrote:
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>
> Hello Group:
> I am looking for opinions / advice on CCDE study.
> Along with the obligatory book list, what are others
> that are working
>
>
> toward
>
>
> CCDE or have passed CCDE used?
> I have a reservation about classroom training for this
> track, but
>
>
> have
> not
>
>
> ruled it out. I think that what can be passed on in a
> classroom
>
>
> setting
>
>
> might be a mindset and way of thinking / reading the
> requirements but
>
>
> the
>
>
> knowledge of the protocols and interaction of the
> possible solutions
>
>
> has
> to
>
>
> be something that comes from actual design /
> implementation
>
>
> experience.
>
>
> Besides CLN - does anyone know of any other CCDE
> specific groups /
>
>
> lists?
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>
>
> Thanks
> Larry Hadrava
> CCIE #12203
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