Re: OT: CCDE Study

Are there any training vendors that offer CCDE courses, videos,
bootcamps, or materials right now?

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Aytac Karameseoglu
<akarameseoglu_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> that mean a candidate must work for a company which needs a CCDE. Otherways
> he must handle whatever CCDE certification requires :)
>
> Aytac Karameseoglu
> CCIE#18102
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> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>
>> Depends who's paying for the TP and who's paying for the plane ticket!
>> J
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>> From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris_at_ine.com]
>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:44 AM
>> To: Brad Ellis
>> Cc: Luan Nguyen; Larry H; Ronnie Angello; Cisco certification; Dawn
>> Tesar
>> Subject: Re: OT: CCDE Study
>>
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>> I dunno.. A class in an "all telepresence" environment sounds kinda
>> cool! Sounds more expensive than flying someplace though! ;)
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>> Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
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>> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
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>> JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
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>> Knowledge is power.
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>> Power corrupts.
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>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
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>> Brad Ellis wrote:
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>> Luan,
>>
>> The problem with doing a CCDE bootcamp remotely, is the amount of
>> student/instructor and student/student interaction that happens. There's
>> way too much interaction for too long a period of time, too much
>> whiteboarding, etc. If it were done in an environment where everyone was
>> in a telepresence room, it would probably work, otherwise, it would be
>> challenging. If you had no other choice but to attend a CCDE class
>> remotely, then it's better than no class at all...but I would really
>> recommend attending a CCDE class in person to get the most out of it.
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>> Brad Ellis
>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Luan Nguyen
>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:00 AM
>> To: 'Larry H'; 'Ronnie Angello'
>> Cc: 'Cisco certification'
>> Subject: RE: OT: CCDE Study
>>
>> Regarding time management, some scenarios are harder and have more
>> questions
>> and might be at the beginning, which is great IMO since you are fresher
>> than
>> toward the end. You will always have enough time, so just take your time
>> and
>> do it right the first time since you can't go back. Some was seen to
>> finish
>> in 6 hours!
>> In the end, though masquerade by scenarios, it's a multiple choices
>> exam...so yeah, it's just all about thought process...and if you happen
>> to
>> think like those design the exam, more power to you. Else, there will
>> always
>> be the next one for you to try your luck with the thought process :) I
>> heard
>> someone said that CCDE is different from CCIE in that you don't really
>> have
>> to prepare for :)
>> So, IMO, CCDE bootcamp could be great for gearing you toward the right
>> mindset, especially taught by mister Filliben or anyone else who'd
>> already
>> passed, but personally, I would use that money for multiple attempts :)
>>
>> I think CCDE bootcamp would be more attractive if taught VIRTUALLY, so
>> people won't have to take time off from work, won't have to pay for
>> travel/lodging...etc. More people would take the class which will lead
>> to
>> lower fee, which will....etc, etc.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------
>> Luan Nguyen
>> Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC.
>> -------------------------------
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Larry H
>> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:49 PM
>> To: Ronnie Angello
>> Cc: Cisco certification
>> Subject: Re: OT: CCDE Study
>>
>> Thanks I will check those out.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Larry Hadrava
>> CCIE #12203
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
>> <mailto:ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>
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>> The networkers presentations (routing and MPLS sessions) are
>> good when
>> you need a break from reading - www.ciscolivevirtual.com.
>>
>> All of that stuff is good, mainly to stay technically sharp and
>> build
>> your confidence for the exam. The truth is though, once you sit
>> down
>> on exam day, you realize that it's really just all about thought
>> process and time management.
>>
>> Ronnie
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Larry Hadrava
>> <larryh12203_at_gmail.com> <mailto:larryh12203_at_gmail.com>
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>> wrote:
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>>
>> Hello Group:
>> I am looking for opinions / advice on CCDE study.
>> Along with the obligatory book list, what are others
>> that are working
>>
>>
>> toward
>>
>>
>> CCDE or have passed CCDE used?
>> I have a reservation about classroom training for this
>> track, but
>>
>>
>> have
>> not
>>
>>
>> ruled it out. I think that what can be passed on in a
>> classroom
>>
>>
>> setting
>>
>>
>> might be a mindset and way of thinking / reading the
>> requirements but
>>
>>
>> the
>>
>>
>> knowledge of the protocols and interaction of the
>> possible solutions
>>
>>
>> has
>> to
>>
>>
>> be something that comes from actual design /
>> implementation
>>
>>
>> experience.
>>
>>
>> Besides CLN - does anyone know of any other CCDE
>> specific groups /
>>
>>
>> lists?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Larry Hadrava
>> CCIE #12203
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