Re: OT: CCDE Study

CCBootcamp has a written workbook, written class and lab class.
CCDEbootcamp has has classes for written and lab.

I am going with CCBootcamp since I have utilized their materials and
training in the past and found it to be very good. Jeremy - the CCBootcamp
CCDE instructor is a very smart and personable guy.

The CCBootcamp CCDE written study guide seems to be very good as well.

Thanks
Larry Hadrava
CCIE #12203
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On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Group Study <gs_at_netengineer.org> wrote:

> Are there any training vendors that offer CCDE courses, videos,
> bootcamps, or materials right now?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Aytac Karameseoglu
> <akarameseoglu_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > that mean a candidate must work for a company which needs a CCDE.
> Otherways
> > he must handle whatever CCDE certification requires :)
> >
> > Aytac Karameseoglu
> > CCIE#18102
> > www.aytackarameseoglu.com
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Depends who's paying for the TP and who's paying for the plane ticket!
> >> J
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris_at_ine.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:44 AM
> >> To: Brad Ellis
> >> Cc: Luan Nguyen; Larry H; Ronnie Angello; Cisco certification; Dawn
> >> Tesar
> >> Subject: Re: OT: CCDE Study
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I dunno.. A class in an "all telepresence" environment sounds kinda
> >> cool! Sounds more expensive than flying someplace though! ;)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> >>
> >> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> >>
> >> JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> >>
> >> evil_at_ine.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >>
> >> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> >>
> >> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> >>
> >> Outside US: 775-826-4344
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Knowledge is power.
> >>
> >> Power corrupts.
> >>
> >> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Brad Ellis wrote:
> >>
> >> Luan,
> >>
> >> The problem with doing a CCDE bootcamp remotely, is the amount of
> >> student/instructor and student/student interaction that happens. There's
> >> way too much interaction for too long a period of time, too much
> >> whiteboarding, etc. If it were done in an environment where everyone was
> >> in a telepresence room, it would probably work, otherwise, it would be
> >> challenging. If you had no other choice but to attend a CCDE class
> >> remotely, then it's better than no class at all...but I would really
> >> recommend attending a CCDE class in person to get the most out of it.
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> Brad Ellis
> >> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> >> CCSI# 30482
> >> CEO / President
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> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Luan Nguyen
> >> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:00 AM
> >> To: 'Larry H'; 'Ronnie Angello'
> >> Cc: 'Cisco certification'
> >> Subject: RE: OT: CCDE Study
> >>
> >> Regarding time management, some scenarios are harder and have more
> >> questions
> >> and might be at the beginning, which is great IMO since you are fresher
> >> than
> >> toward the end. You will always have enough time, so just take your time
> >> and
> >> do it right the first time since you can't go back. Some was seen to
> >> finish
> >> in 6 hours!
> >> In the end, though masquerade by scenarios, it's a multiple choices
> >> exam...so yeah, it's just all about thought process...and if you happen
> >> to
> >> think like those design the exam, more power to you. Else, there will
> >> always
> >> be the next one for you to try your luck with the thought process :) I
> >> heard
> >> someone said that CCDE is different from CCIE in that you don't really
> >> have
> >> to prepare for :)
> >> So, IMO, CCDE bootcamp could be great for gearing you toward the right
> >> mindset, especially taught by mister Filliben or anyone else who'd
> >> already
> >> passed, but personally, I would use that money for multiple attempts :)
> >>
> >> I think CCDE bootcamp would be more attractive if taught VIRTUALLY, so
> >> people won't have to take time off from work, won't have to pay for
> >> travel/lodging...etc. More people would take the class which will lead
> >> to
> >> lower fee, which will....etc, etc.
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------------------
> >> Luan Nguyen
> >> Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC.
> >> -------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Larry H
> >> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:49 PM
> >> To: Ronnie Angello
> >> Cc: Cisco certification
> >> Subject: Re: OT: CCDE Study
> >>
> >> Thanks I will check those out.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Larry Hadrava
> >> CCIE #12203
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
> >> <mailto:ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The networkers presentations (routing and MPLS sessions) are
> >> good when
> >> you need a break from reading - www.ciscolivevirtual.com.
> >>
> >> All of that stuff is good, mainly to stay technically sharp and
> >> build
> >> your confidence for the exam. The truth is though, once you sit
> >> down
> >> on exam day, you realize that it's really just all about thought
> >> process and time management.
> >>
> >> Ronnie
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Larry Hadrava
> >> <larryh12203_at_gmail.com> <mailto:larryh12203_at_gmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello Group:
> >> I am looking for opinions / advice on CCDE study.
> >> Along with the obligatory book list, what are others
> >> that are working
> >>
> >>
> >> toward
> >>
> >>
> >> CCDE or have passed CCDE used?
> >> I have a reservation about classroom training for this
> >> track, but
> >>
> >>
> >> have
> >> not
> >>
> >>
> >> ruled it out. I think that what can be passed on in a
> >> classroom
> >>
> >>
> >> setting
> >>
> >>
> >> might be a mindset and way of thinking / reading the
> >> requirements but
> >>
> >>
> >> the
> >>
> >>
> >> knowledge of the protocols and interaction of the
> >> possible solutions
> >>
> >>
> >> has
> >> to
> >>
> >>
> >> be something that comes from actual design /
> >> implementation
> >>
> >>
> >> experience.
> >>
> >>
> >> Besides CLN - does anyone know of any other CCDE
> >> specific groups /
> >>
> >>
> >> lists?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Larry Hadrava
> >> CCIE #12203
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