Re: OT: CCDE Study

 I dunno.. A class in an "all telepresence" environment sounds kinda
cool! Sounds more expensive than flying someplace though! ;)

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Brad Ellis wrote:

  Luan,
  
  The problem with doing a CCDE bootcamp remotely, is the amount of
  student/instructor and student/student interaction that happens. There's
  way too much interaction for too long a period of time, too much
  whiteboarding, etc. If it were done in an environment where everyone was
  in a telepresence room, it would probably work, otherwise, it would be
  challenging. If you had no other choice but to attend a CCDE class
  remotely, then it's better than no class at all...but I would really
  recommend attending a CCDE class in person to get the most out of it.

  thanks,
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [ mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com ] On Behalf Of
  Luan Nguyen
  Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:00 AM
  To: 'Larry H'; 'Ronnie Angello'
  Cc: 'Cisco certification'
  Subject: RE: OT: CCDE Study
  
  Regarding time management, some scenarios are harder and have more
  questions
  and might be at the beginning, which is great IMO since you are fresher
  than
  toward the end. You will always have enough time, so just take your time
  and
  do it right the first time since you can't go back. Some was seen to
  finish
  in 6 hours!
  In the end, though masquerade by scenarios, it's a multiple choices
  exam...so yeah, it's just all about thought process...and if you happen
  to
  think like those design the exam, more power to you. Else, there will
  always
  be the next one for you to try your luck with the thought process :) I
  heard
  someone said that CCDE is different from CCIE in that you don't really
  have
  to prepare for :)
  So, IMO, CCDE bootcamp could be great for gearing you toward the right
  mindset, especially taught by mister Filliben or anyone else who'd
  already
  passed, but personally, I would use that money for multiple attempts :)
  
  I think CCDE bootcamp would be more attractive if taught VIRTUALLY, so
  people won't have to take time off from work, won't have to pay for
  travel/lodging...etc. More people would take the class which will lead
  to
  lower fee, which will....etc, etc.

  --------------------------------
  Luan Nguyen
  Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC.
  -------------------------------

  -----Original Message-----
  From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [ mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com ] On Behalf Of
  Larry H
  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:49 PM
  To: Ronnie Angello
  Cc: Cisco certification
  Subject: Re: OT: CCDE Study
  
  Thanks I will check those out.
  
  Thanks
  Larry Hadrava
  CCIE #12203
  
  Sent from my iPad
  
  On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com> wrote:

    The networkers presentations (routing and MPLS sessions) are good when
    you need a break from reading - www.ciscolivevirtual.com .
    
    All of that stuff is good, mainly to stay technically sharp and build
    your confidence for the exam. The truth is though, once you sit down
    on exam day, you realize that it's really just all about thought
    process and time management.
    
    Ronnie
    
    On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Larry Hadrava <larryh12203_at_gmail.com>

  wrote:

      Hello Group:
      I am looking for opinions / advice on CCDE study.
      Along with the obligatory book list, what are others that are working

  toward

      CCDE or have passed CCDE used?
      I have a reservation about classroom training for this track, but

  have
  not

      ruled it out. I think that what can be passed on in a classroom

  setting

      might be a mindset and way of thinking / reading the requirements but

  the

      knowledge of the protocols and interaction of the possible solutions

  has
  to

      be something that comes from actual design / implementation

  experience.

      Besides CLN - does anyone know of any other CCDE specific groups /

  lists?

      Thanks
      Larry Hadrava
      CCIE #12203
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