I totally agreed with Scott. No cert can beat the experience. The experience
will be the tie breaker.
just to give you an idea - I know a few fresh dynamipper ccie's (R&S of
course) and they are working as a helpdesk operator.
------------------------------
It's about theperson and their experiences that go along with the knowledge
--------------------------------
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:13 PM, ChoChan <cho.chanman_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> You are going to also pee in a cup and get a skin graft sample to confirm
> DNA. Don't forget about the hernia test that the receptionist will
> administrate for maximum security. Cough. Cough.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Robinson
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:37 PM
> To: Scott Morris; darth router
> Cc: Dark Fiber; Anthony Faria; John Pelletier; Ramanpreet Singh;
> group-study; Joseph L. Brunner
> Subject: Re: CCIE R&S Lab Exam at Pearson ?
>
> Yeah Scott...
>
> The rest... "stop hate'n and get cha money on"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Stephen L. Robinson
> srobinson_at_qtzl.com
>
>
> > From: Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com>
> > Organization: Internetwork Expert - CCIE Training
> > Reply-To: Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com>
> > Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:15:14 -0500
> > To: darth router <darklordrouter_at_gmail.com>
> > Cc: Dark Fiber <darkfiber08_at_gmail.com>, Anthony Faria
> <tfaria72_at_gmail.com>,
> > John Pelletier <john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>, Ramanpreet Singh
> > <sikandar.raman_at_gmail.com>, group-study <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>,
> "Joseph
> L.
> > Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
> > Subject: Re: CCIE R&S Lab Exam at Pearson ?
> >
> > Blah, blah, blah... Dude, People have been saying the same thing about
> > devaluation for the past 11+ years since I was studying/getting/got my
> > CCIE!
> >
> > Amazingly enough, there's still plenty of jobs... There still plenty of
> > $$ to go with them... There is still plenty of people looking for CCIEs.
> >
> > Why don't some people have jobs? Because like ANY other industry it's
> > not just about a title/piece-of-paper/number/whatever. It's about the
> > person and their experiences that go along with the knowledge.
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> >
> > JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> >
> > JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> >
> > evil_at_ine.com
> >
> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >
> > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> >
> > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> >
> > Outside US: 775-826-4344
> >
> > Knowledge is power.
> >
> > Power corrupts.
> >
> > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >
> > darth router wrote:
> >
> > It's one step closer to assembly line mass production. At that point,
> simple
> > economics devalues it. The CCIE is valuable because of it's reputation
> of
> > expertise, and because it is rare. If he former or latter go away, then
> > what?
> >
> > Possibly no proctor? Lame. Less security as it's run by a third party
> > company? (we all know what this means) Lame. Cisco, the company? Mega
> gay
> > lame. Oh well, we should all know that putting our eggs in the same
> basket
> > isn't the smartest idea. Time to diversity!
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Dark Fiber <darkfiber08_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > You guys are all so funny! How does this devalue the cert? You are
> > still taking the same exam and need to know the same material. What
> is
> > the difference between this and the mobile lab? Sounds as if alot of
> > people are looking for any excuse not to study and take the easy why
> > out by saying the CCIE is worthless now I quit...
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Anthony Faria <
> tfaria72_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > LMAO
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:20 AM, John Pelletier <
> > john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com > wrote:
> >
> > When I said Cisco is becoming more and more like MS some people
> jumped
> >
> > all
> >
> > over that statement. I wish I could pick em like that at the
> racetrack
> > I
> > would
> > be a rich man.
> >
> > --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Joseph L. Brunner
> > <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Joseph L. Brunner <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
> > Subject: RE: CCIE R&S Lab Exam at Pearson ?
> > To: "Ramanpreet Singh" <sikandar.raman_at_gmail.com>
> ,
> > "CCIE Groupstudy" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com> Date: Tuesday,
> > February 9, 2010, 1:34 AM
> >
> > Excellent.
> >
> > I'm going to China to get my Medical License, My Gulfstream V
> Pilot's
> > License,
> > Certified Bank Examiner License, and oh, and my security CCIE.
> >
> > "High-Stakes" Wasn't that a Steven Seagal Movie?
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [
> > mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com ] On Behalf Of
> > Ramanpreet Singh
> > Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:14 PM
> > To: CCIE Groupstudy
> > Subject: CCIE R&S Lab Exam at Pearson ?
> >
> > ---
> > February 8, 2010
> >
> > New CCIE R&S Lab Exam Opportunities
> >
> > To increase testing opportunities for certification candidates,
> Cisco.
> >
> > will
> >
> > be offering the CCIE. Routing and Switching lab exam in
> additional
> > locations
> > in April 2010, as listed below. The exams will be administered at
> >
> > Pearson
> >
> > Professional Centers which are designed for secure, high-stakes
> > professional
> > exams and have been used by medical, legal and other examination
> > boards
> >
> > for
> >
> > over eight years. Cisco already uses Pearson Professional Centers
> to
> > administer the practical exam for CCDE. (Cisco Certified Design
> > Expert).
> > More information on the centers is available at
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> >
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> >
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> >
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