Re: CCIEs: You should check to see who is using your number

I honestly have NOT seen or heard anything like that from INE or IPexpert.
They are pretty good and i don't see how one could have this kind of
problems with any of these vendors. If you see your name and you do not like
it, i highly recommend sending them an e-mail for removal, i am sure they
would NOT mind.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Dark Fiber <darkfiber08_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Coming here bashing IPexpert being the legit and good company they are
> shows YOUR level of professionalism. Good luck getting that great job with
> that kind of attitude...
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Astorino" <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
> To: "Scott Morris" <smorris_at_ine.com>
> Cc: "Robert Hosford" <rhosford_at_certifiednets.com>, "Cisco certification" <
> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, cisco_at_groupstudy.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:50:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: CCIEs: You should check to see who is using your number
> without your permission
>
> Like Marko said, your name is indeed in our database of customers.
> That means that yes, you have purchased something, or downloaded
> something from us. What happens is that when you purchase a product,
> or download a free product from us to help you, yes your name does go
> into a customer database. At the end of the day, we are a business
> and it makes sense for us to track who has purchased stuff or used our
> products. If you didn't use the product you downloaded and feel
> strongly that we were not part of your success there is no issue in
> having us remove that.
>
> You could have simply sent an email to support_at_ipexpert.com , and
> explained in a professional way the situation, and we'd have be happy
> to take it off the list of our thousands of very happy and satisfied
> engineers. Lashing out against the credibility of our company on a
> public forum by saying we are lying is a bit much honestly. You
> downloaded and/or purchased product from our website. You got your
> CCIE. We are a CCIE training company. Put two and two together here.
>
> As far as the credibility and reputation of our product, I'll let the
> decade of experience, success stories, groupstudy posts, and
> everything else speak for itself as well. If we were a "fly by night"
> company I don't think we'd be recognized as one of the premier CCIE
> training vendors in the world. Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
> > Amazingly enough, I'm listed on the toccie one as well. Never had heard
> > of 'em before. The domain is fairly amusing in registration. But the IP
> > is in China.
> >
> > The contact form is pegged to a non-existant domain. And I even asked
> > for sales, so apparently they aren't selling much. :)
> >
> > But in cases like that, it's fairly simple to tell the reputable ones
> > from non-reputable ones. Believe it or not, there are thoroughly crappy
> > companies that still happen to be Cisco Learning Partners, so following a
> > moniker does not necessarily guarantee perfection. :)
> >
> > But I'm sure it's a matter of details. There will always be bad apples.
> > Just gotta learn how to spot them!
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> >
> > JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> >
> > JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> >
> > evil_at_ine.com
> >
> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >
> > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> >
> > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> >
> > Outside US: 775-826-4344
> >
> > Knowledge is power.
> >
> > Power corrupts.
> >
> > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >
> > Robert Hosford wrote:
> >
> > This email is for all of those who want to be a CCIE. When you look
> around you will see many sites claiming to have trained many CCIEs. That
> site is claiming that if you use their products you can be a CCIE just like
> the CCIEs on their roster. That the CCIE on their web site is endorsing
> their products and training.
> >
> > Well I can tell you that most sites are lying. Like this fly by night
> CCIE rip-off site. http://www.toccie.com/allback.htm
> > I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF OR USED THEM. You should stay away from them
> whomever they are.
> > http://www.ipexpert.com/Company/Success I HAVE NEVER USED THEM or
> their products to get my CCIE. I do not endorse them in any way. They are
> lying to you by putting my number on their wall. I have a friend that has
> used them and thinks they are a complete rip-off. BTW they are using his
> number to lie to you into thinking that their training helped him get his
> CCIE and he endorses them.
> > http://www.ciscobible.net/ccie-hall-of-fame Another site lying to you.
> I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF OR USED THEM. You should stay away from them whomever
> they are.
> >
> > So to the above websites get my name and number off your wall Robert
> Hosford CCIE No. 14711.
> >
> > It is people like this the Cisco had to create the 360 program so you
> know is reputable.
> >
> > If you want to get your CCIE number talk to Bruce at NetMasters. I know
> for a fact they are the real deal. After all Bruce has trained many of the
> other guys. The only site I authorize to use my number is NetMaster. No one
> else is to be using it.
> http://www.netmasterclass.com/CCIE/Cisco-360-Learning-Program-Products-and-Services/Advanced-Workshops/Former-Student-Reviews/
> >
> > To all other CCIEs I implore you to check out who is using your number
> without permission. Remember your number is being used as a form of
> endorsement. Together we can we have honest and better training for
> everyone.
> >
> > Signed,
> >
> > Robert Hosford
> >
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> --
> Regards,
>
> Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (R&S)
> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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