Re: CCIEs: You should check to see who is using your number

Coming here bashing IPexpert being the legit and good company they are shows YOUR level of professionalism. Good luck getting that great job with that kind of attitude...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Astorino" <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
To: "Scott Morris" <smorris_at_ine.com>
Cc: "Robert Hosford" <rhosford_at_certifiednets.com>, "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, cisco_at_groupstudy.com
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:50:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: CCIEs: You should check to see who is using your number without your permission

Like Marko said, your name is indeed in our database of customers.
That means that yes, you have purchased something, or downloaded
something from us. What happens is that when you purchase a product,
or download a free product from us to help you, yes your name does go
into a customer database. At the end of the day, we are a business
and it makes sense for us to track who has purchased stuff or used our
products. If you didn't use the product you downloaded and feel
strongly that we were not part of your success there is no issue in
having us remove that.

You could have simply sent an email to support_at_ipexpert.com , and
explained in a professional way the situation, and we'd have be happy
to take it off the list of our thousands of very happy and satisfied
engineers. Lashing out against the credibility of our company on a
public forum by saying we are lying is a bit much honestly. You
downloaded and/or purchased product from our website. You got your
CCIE. We are a CCIE training company. Put two and two together here.

As far as the credibility and reputation of our product, I'll let the
decade of experience, success stories, groupstudy posts, and
everything else speak for itself as well. If we were a "fly by night"
company I don't think we'd be recognized as one of the premier CCIE
training vendors in the world. Thanks.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
> Amazingly enough, I'm listed on the toccie one as well. Never had heard
> of 'em before. The domain is fairly amusing in registration. But the IP
> is in China.
>
> The contact form is pegged to a non-existant domain. And I even asked
> for sales, so apparently they aren't selling much. :)
>
> But in cases like that, it's fairly simple to tell the reputable ones
> from non-reputable ones. Believe it or not, there are thoroughly crappy
> companies that still happen to be Cisco Learning Partners, so following a
> moniker does not necessarily guarantee perfection. :)
>
> But I'm sure it's a matter of details. There will always be bad apples.
> Just gotta learn how to spot them!
>
> Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
>
> JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>
> JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>
> evil_at_ine.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>
> Outside US: 775-826-4344
>
> Knowledge is power.
>
> Power corrupts.
>
> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>
> Robert Hosford wrote:
>
> This email is for all of those who want to be a CCIE. When you look around you will see many sites claiming to have trained many CCIEs. That site is claiming that if you use their products you can be a CCIE just like the CCIEs on their roster. That the CCIE on their web site is endorsing their products and training.
>
> Well I can tell you that most sites are lying. Like this fly by night CCIE rip-off site. http://www.toccie.com/allback.htm
> I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF OR USED THEM. You should stay away from them whomever they are.
> http://www.ipexpert.com/Company/Success I HAVE NEVER USED THEM or their products to get my CCIE. I do not endorse them in any way. They are lying to you by putting my number on their wall. I have a friend that has used them and thinks they are a complete rip-off. BTW they are using his number to lie to you into thinking that their training helped him get his CCIE and he endorses them.
> http://www.ciscobible.net/ccie-hall-of-fame Another site lying to you. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF OR USED THEM. You should stay away from them whomever they are.
>
> So to the above websites get my name and number off your wall Robert Hosford CCIE No. 14711.
>
> It is people like this the Cisco had to create the 360 program so you know is reputable.
>
> If you want to get your CCIE number talk to Bruce at NetMasters. I know for a fact they are the real deal. After all Bruce has trained many of the other guys. The only site I authorize to use my number is NetMaster. No one else is to be using it. http://www.netmasterclass.com/CCIE/Cisco-360-Learning-Program-Products-and-Services/Advanced-Workshops/Former-Student-Reviews/
>
> To all other CCIEs I implore you to check out who is using your number without permission. Remember your number is being used as a form of endorsement. Together we can we have honest and better training for everyone.
>
> Signed,
>
> Robert Hosford
>
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