Re: OT: Anyone pass V4 lab exam?

Yes, that book is still valid. I would read through it and be familiar with
the concepts/techniques/ideas in there.

I has helped me. It also does a great job of simplifying the explanations on
how the technologies are supposed to work.

Justin G. Mitchell
http://www.google.com/profiles/jgmitchell
Sent from Wichita, Kansas, United States

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Bradley Freeman <
bradley_at_communitystring.com> wrote:

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> Speaking of troubleshooting I just added this book on troubleshooting
> routing protocols to my book list
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1587050196 its from 2002 but
> should
> still be relevant, does anybody have any knowledge of if this book is
> applicable to the troubleshooting section of v4?
>
> Cheers
>
> Bradley
>
>
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> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Justin Mitchell
> Sent: 14 December 2009 12:17
> To: Majonestx
> Cc: Radioactive Frog; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Jose Padilla; Scott Morris
> Subject: Re: OT: Anyone pass V4 lab exam?
>
> Perhaps troubleshooting is an art and a science, with a little voodoo mixed
> in. I also understand that people not studying for the CCIE do it everyday.
> Some of those people are good at it and some are horrible, just like
> anything else.
>
> Real life troubleshooting is even worse because you involve clients, other
> engineers, third-party vendors, TAC and you usually have more than 2 hours
> for one trouble ticket which means you can dilly dally until you find the
> solution, make things up, use a lifeline, etc.
>
> Justin
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Majonestx <majonestx_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > @Kermit
> >
> > I disagree, how can troubleshooting be such an art when most doing it
> (not
> > studying for ccie) don't know the technology.
> >
> > Real world troubleshooting would prove to be most beneficial in "real
> > world" environments, which ccie lab is not.
> >
> > I've worked at few places with HUGE networks and can say in my lab
> attempt,
> > not once did I solve a task pulling from expereince from the "good ole
> days"
> > at Dell.
> >
> >
> > The ccie is a controlled environment along with the labs. Knowing the
> > technologies (vol 1) is ur biggest weapon. IMHO
> >
> > Michael Jones
> > Sr. Network Engineer
> > Datran Media
> > 512-672-9554
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Dec 13, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Justin Mitchell <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Nope, I'm not scared. No reason to be.
> >>
> >> Justin G. Mitchell
> >> Sent from my G1 mobile phone
> >>
> >> On Dec 13, 2009 7:08 PM, "Radioactive Frog" <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Guys,
> >> don't get too serious about what I said! That was just my view and the
> >> fact
> >> that troubleshooting skills doesn't just come overnight practicing the
> >> workbook. Thats where the real experience kicks in.
> >>
> >> I was told by someone that there could be around 3000+ scenarios in the
> >> troubleshooting section and Cisco will keep this up and growing.
> >>
> >> The chances of dumping 3000+ troubleshooting scenarios are pretty thin.
> >> Therefore you can't see anyone is passing. Take the truth or proove me
> >> wrong.
> >>
> >> Again, I may be wrong here!
> >>
> >>
> >> Have I scared all of you now?
> >>
> >> -Kermitt!
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 3:09 AM, Justin Mitchell <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote: > > As someone who...
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