Re: OT: Anyone pass V4 lab exam?

Always remember though... Today's "troubleshooting" is tomorrow's
"experience". :)

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Justin Mitchell wrote:
> Perhaps troubleshooting is an art and a science, with a little voodoo
> mixed in. I also understand that people not studying for the CCIE do
> it everyday. Some of those people are good at it and some are
> horrible, just like anything else.
>
> Real life troubleshooting is even worse because you involve clients,
> other engineers, third-party vendors, TAC and you usually have more
> than 2 hours for one trouble ticket which means you can dilly dally
> until you find the solution, make things up, use a lifeline, etc.
>
> Justin
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Majonestx <majonestx_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:majonestx_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> @Kermit
>
> I disagree, how can troubleshooting be such an art when most doing
> it (not studying for ccie) don't know the technology.
>
> Real world troubleshooting would prove to be most beneficial in
> "real world" environments, which ccie lab is not.
>
> I've worked at few places with HUGE networks and can say in my lab
> attempt, not once did I solve a task pulling from expereince from
> the "good ole days" at Dell.
>
>
> The ccie is a controlled environment along with the labs. Knowing
> the technologies (vol 1) is ur biggest weapon. IMHO
>
> Michael Jones
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> Datran Media
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>
>
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>
>
> On Dec 13, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Justin Mitchell <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Nope, I'm not scared. No reason to be.
>
> Justin G. Mitchell
> Sent from my G1 mobile phone
>
> On Dec 13, 2009 7:08 PM, "Radioactive Frog"
> <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com <mailto:pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Guys,
> don't get too serious about what I said! That was just my view
> and the fact
> that troubleshooting skills doesn't just come overnight
> practicing the
> workbook. Thats where the real experience kicks in.
>
> I was told by someone that there could be around 3000+
> scenarios in the
> troubleshooting section and Cisco will keep this up and growing.
>
> The chances of dumping 3000+ troubleshooting scenarios are
> pretty thin.
> Therefore you can't see anyone is passing. Take the truth or
> proove me
> wrong.
>
> Again, I may be wrong here!
>
>
> Have I scared all of you now?
>
> -Kermitt!
>
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 3:09 AM, Justin Mitchell
> <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com <mailto:jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>>
> wrote: > > As someone who...
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