Re: R&S v4.0 Points

Cool, Cool...having spoken to this student, he agrees with your statement as
well that there should be no HUGE tasks whereby if you fail a single tiny
subtask you basically fail the exam.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com> wrote:

> Sounds awesome Joe - I was not snipping of course, just commenting on what
> I thought I read.
>
> On Dec 4, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Joe Astorino wrote:
>
> Anthony,
>
> I wasn't saying there ARE 10+ point tasks, it was strictly an EXAMPLE to
> make the point of my question. With that being said, I have HEARD of
> sections being worth quite a bit more than that. I cannot however confirm
> that. If the max. points for a task is 4 points then that is fine and quite
> a bit more on track to what I would expect.
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>wrote:
>
>> A Masters Degree gets you nothing!
>>
>> Just kidding!
>>
>> Here is the deal - you do not have to perfect to achieve the cert in this
>> format. To review....
>>
>> You may miss one of four Core Knowledge questions.
>>
>> You may miss 20% of the Trouble Tickets.
>>
>> You may miss 20% of the Configuration tasks.
>>
>> As our own Petr L. pointed out here in GS some time ago - this is a
>> tougher format. But, while tougher, it does not require perfection, and it
>> is passable. You will see the passing score reports begin this month I am
>> willing to bet.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>>
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>> On Dec 4, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Dark Fiber wrote:
>>
>> > Whether it is 4 or 10 points it is still all or nothing for the whole
>> section. That seems a little intense...
>> >
>> > Maybe it is just time to revisit the masters degree and forget about all
>> this :). Having to be perfect for a certification just does not seem that
>> time in equals what you get out of it...
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Anthony Sequeira" <asequeira_at_ine.com>
>> > To: "Dark Fiber" <darkfiber08_at_gmail.com>
>> > Cc: "Rodrigo Gutierrez (NSN - CO/Bogota)" <rodrigo.gutierrez_at_nsn.com>,
>> "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, "ron wilkerson" <
>> ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com>, "jose manzano" <josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2009 3:09:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> > Subject: Re: R&S v4.0 Points
>> >
>> > Be calm GS. The original post had a pretty big error. There are no 10
>> point tasks in the new lab!
>> >
>> > It is true that what may have been several independent tasks before may
>> be combined, but 4 points is the maximum someone should still expect per
>> task.
>> >
>> > Warmest Regards,
>> >
>> > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
>> > Senior CCIE Instructor
>> > http://www.INE.com
>> >
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>> > On Dec 4, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Dark Fiber wrote:
>> >
>> >> If this is true I am not even going to bother to retake my lab...
>> >>
>> >> If you need to be perfect for the "whole" section that is absurd...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Rodrigo Gutierrez (NSN - CO/Bogota)" <rodrigo.gutierrez_at_nsn.com
>> >
>> >> To: "ron wilkerson" <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com>, "jose manzano" <
>> josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
>> >> Cc: "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> >> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2009 2:25:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> >> Subject: RE: R&S v4.0 Points
>> >>
>> >> If that's the way then it sucks !!!!!! That means the candidates that
>> go
>> >> for the exam gotta to be almost perfect 2 dummy answers in any giving
>> >> section will make him fail the exam..
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of
>> >> ext ron wilkerson
>> >> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:17 PM
>> >> To: jose manzano
>> >> Cc: Cisco certification
>> >> Subject: Re: R&S v4.0 Points
>> >>
>> >> if this is true, might explain why so few have been passing as of late.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:54 PM, jose manzano <josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Ditto .... I've read more than one review that stated the same ....
>> >>>
>> >>> When you take into consideration how certain tasks/sections can
>> >>> indirectly effect tasks in other sections.....you could be looking to
>> >> fail
>> >>> multiple sections just by missing a single task.
>> >>>
>> >>> The scoring sucks..... plain and simple
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Larry Hadrava <larryh12203_at_gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Joe:
>> >>>> I have heard this from a couple of folks as well.
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Thanks
>> >>>> Larry Hadrava
>> >>>> CCIE #12203
>> >>>> Check Out MyBlog: http://ccie12203.wordpress.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Joe Astorino
>> >> <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I don't know if this has been confirmed by anybody, but I have a
>> >>> student
>> >>>>> this week that has taken the v4.0 lab exam and has told us that
>> >> the
>> >>>>> sections
>> >>>>> are no longer broken into sub-tasks with points. For instance, in
>> >> v3.0
>> >>>> we
>> >>>>> had for example:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> BGP section 4 (10 points)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Task 4.1 (3 points)
>> >>>>> Task 4.2 (3 points)
>> >>>>> Task 4.3 (2 points)
>> >>>>> Task 4.4 (2 points)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> According to this individual, he was only give a general "BGP --
>> >> 10
>> >>>> points"
>> >>>>> as an example. I thought that sounded pretty harsh -- You get 10
>> >> or
>> >>>>> nothing? Can anybody confirm this?
>> >>>>>
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