Re: R&S v4.0 Points

Sounds awesome Joe - I was not snipping of course, just commenting on what I
thought I read.

On Dec 4, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Joe Astorino wrote:

> Anthony,
>
> I wasn't saying there ARE 10+ point tasks, it was strictly an EXAMPLE to
make the point of my question. With that being said, I have HEARD of sections
being worth quite a bit more than that. I cannot however confirm that. If
the max. points for a task is 4 points then that is fine and quite a bit more
on track to what I would expect.
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com> wrote:
> A Masters Degree gets you nothing!
>
> Just kidding!
>
> Here is the deal - you do not have to perfect to achieve the cert in this
format. To review....
>
> You may miss one of four Core Knowledge questions.
>
> You may miss 20% of the Trouble Tickets.
>
> You may miss 20% of the Configuration tasks.
>
> As our own Petr L. pointed out here in GS some time ago - this is a tougher
format. But, while tougher, it does not require perfection, and it is
passable. You will see the passing score reports begin this month I am willing
to bet.
>
> :-)
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
> Senior CCIE Instructor
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>
> On Dec 4, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Dark Fiber wrote:
>
> > Whether it is 4 or 10 points it is still all or nothing for the whole
section. That seems a little intense...
> >
> > Maybe it is just time to revisit the masters degree and forget about all
this :). Having to be perfect for a certification just does not seem that time
in equals what you get out of it...
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Anthony Sequeira" <asequeira_at_ine.com>
> > To: "Dark Fiber" <darkfiber08_at_gmail.com>
> > Cc: "Rodrigo Gutierrez (NSN - CO/Bogota)" <rodrigo.gutierrez_at_nsn.com>,
"Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, "ron wilkerson"
<ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com>, "jose manzano" <josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2009 3:09:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > Subject: Re: R&S v4.0 Points
> >
> > Be calm GS. The original post had a pretty big error. There are no 10
point tasks in the new lab!
> >
> > It is true that what may have been several independent tasks before may be
combined, but 4 points is the maximum someone should still expect per task.
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> >
> > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
> > Senior CCIE Instructor
> > http://www.INE.com
> >
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> > On Dec 4, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Dark Fiber wrote:
> >
> >> If this is true I am not even going to bother to retake my lab...
> >>
> >> If you need to be perfect for the "whole" section that is absurd...
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Rodrigo Gutierrez (NSN - CO/Bogota)" <rodrigo.gutierrez_at_nsn.com>
> >> To: "ron wilkerson" <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com>, "jose manzano"
<josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
> >> Cc: "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2009 2:25:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> >> Subject: RE: R&S v4.0 Points
> >>
> >> If that's the way then it sucks !!!!!! That means the candidates that go
> >> for the exam gotta to be almost perfect 2 dummy answers in any giving
> >> section will make him fail the exam..
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> ext ron wilkerson
> >> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:17 PM
> >> To: jose manzano
> >> Cc: Cisco certification
> >> Subject: Re: R&S v4.0 Points
> >>
> >> if this is true, might explain why so few have been passing as of late.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:54 PM, jose manzano <josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ditto .... I've read more than one review that stated the same ....
> >>>
> >>> When you take into consideration how certain tasks/sections can
> >>> indirectly effect tasks in other sections.....you could be looking to
> >> fail
> >>> multiple sections just by missing a single task.
> >>>
> >>> The scoring sucks..... plain and simple
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Larry Hadrava <larryh12203_at_gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Joe:
> >>>> I have heard this from a couple of folks as well.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> Larry Hadrava
> >>>> CCIE #12203
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Joe Astorino
> >> <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I don't know if this has been confirmed by anybody, but I have a
> >>> student
> >>>>> this week that has taken the v4.0 lab exam and has told us that
> >> the
> >>>>> sections
> >>>>> are no longer broken into sub-tasks with points. For instance, in
> >> v3.0
> >>>> we
> >>>>> had for example:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BGP section 4 (10 points)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Task 4.1 (3 points)
> >>>>> Task 4.2 (3 points)
> >>>>> Task 4.3 (2 points)
> >>>>> Task 4.4 (2 points)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> According to this individual, he was only give a general "BGP --
> >> 10
> >>>> points"
> >>>>> as an example. I thought that sounded pretty harsh -- You get 10
> >> or
> >>>>> nothing? Can anybody confirm this?
> >>>>>
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