Re: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday

Cisco League,

Good job m8. Totally agreed.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Cisco League <ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com>wrote:

> Makes Sense!
> Positive side is that with the new exam CCIE will continue to have shine
> and
> weightage. Seasoned, New and Future CCIEs all wanted this.
> Something I gathered from the Ver 4 experiences people have shared is that
> they are more determined than ever to work harder and go for it rather than
> quiting.
> We all need to study harder for whatever we are pursuing.
>
> As Scott says
>
> Knowledge is Power
> Study Hard...and be Evil
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Walter <geyetan_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > None taken cisco league it is not personal :-) Anyway trust me i have
> seen
> > both sides of the coin as i have failed the lab first hand like every one
> > else here and you don't get rid of that scar easily (i couldn't sleep for
> > nights after my third failure and to make matters worse i missed my
> flight
> > which cost me an extra #200 and i almost messed up a very major project
> for
> > my company which would have cost me my job)
> > A lot of the people you know have failed the exams due to OEQ's but a lot
> > more i'm sure failed during that same window due to the main lab, you
> like
> > all of us don't know everyone who sat for the lab but my point is no
> matter
> > what your reason is for failing the fact is that you failed and if you
> > prepare differently (harder, better, smarter i don't know I'm not a
> trainer)
> > you will eventually pass. I am hoping the attitude for V4 takers to Cisco
> > will be "Bring it On"
> >
> > Ta
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Cisco League
> <ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> WOW
> >> Applause
> >>
> >> Why do you time and again fail to look at the other side of the coin?
> You
> >> loose 2 questions and you loose the Lab.
> >> Give this some thought and stop looking only at one side of the coin.
> >> (Unless ofcourse all the coins you have are double headed). ;-)
> >>
> >> Most of the people I know failed Ver3 not on configuration portion but
> the
> >> OEQs. Does that ring any bell and explains that they would have passed
> if
> >> there were no OEQs.
> >>
> >> P.S. Don't forget the added pressure, anxiety and fear of losing all
> your
> >> time, efforts and money invested for that one big day just because of a
> >> couple of questions that you could have referenced on DocCD if u had
> >> access.
> >>
> >> No hard Feelings ;-)
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I see why you getting all ticked off.. you actually got your # during
> >> that
> >> > period! Interesting :)
> >> >
> >> > As I said and as you have just said that 1 out of 4 questions is
> >> difficult
> >> > so that means you should be able to get 3 right and have 21 points on
> >> the
> >> > table?
> >> >
> >> > Now you still have what 7 hours left? and you have to grab 59 points.
> so
> >> if
> >> > you are strong @ L2/L3 (looking at the V3 feedback from GS) you should
> >> be
> >> > able to score 40-44 points. What that leaves you with is? 17 odd
> points
> >> > from
> >> > REST OF THE EXAM! Enough time to look through DOCCD and pick points
> >> where
> >> > you think you are good with.
> >> >
> >> > THIS is the thing with V4 and I stress its no free ride. you have NO
> >> time
> >> > to
> >> > look up things on DOCCD so you need to know EVERYTHING or you have to
> >> come
> >> > back.
> >> >
> >> > Are you telling me that is not easy? Come on you have got to be
> kidding
> >> me.
> >> > You passed GREAT! but don't tell me it was not easy.
> >> >
> >> > Once again I am glad you worked hard and got your # but still easier
> >> than
> >> > folks who did it BEFORE feb 09 (had to score 80) or after Oct 18th.
> >> >
> >> > Take it for what its worth but truth hurts :)
> >> >
> >> > Have a blessed day!
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Ryan West <rwest_at_zyedge.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > What version of the lab did you take? Did you have to pass two
> parts
> >> or
> >> > > one to get your number? Did you have to take a mini-exam where
> >> personal
> >> > > interpretation combined with an extremely small sample set
> determined
> >> > your
> >> > > outcome? I'm sorry to break this to you, but the CCIE numbers
> didn't
> >> > jump
> >> > > off the charts with OEQ's. The delta between the number of
> questions
> >> you
> >> > > could get wrong between your version of the exam and post OEQ's is
> 4.
> >> > You
> >> > > were given 30 minutes more to complete them and you were able to
> >> approach
> >> > > the lab with a clear mind. One of the main factors that so many
> >> people
> >> > are
> >> > > having trouble with version 4 is that there are two new comers to
> the
> >> > exam,
> >> > > still fresh OEQs and troubleshooting. To anyone who has sat the
> exam
> >> > with
> >> > > OEQs, at least one of the questions is hard. It's fairly easy to
> let
> >> > those
> >> > > questions cloud your mind during the exam. Imagine if you were
> unsure
> >> of
> >> > > two, don't you think that would throw you off your game? If you
> were
> >> to
> >> > > dissect version 4 into 3 parts, I'm sure it would be less of a
> >> challenge.
> >> > >
> >> > > Once again, I'm wondering what you actually add to this list,
> besides
> >> > > showing the world that you're a clown puncher.
> >> > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
> >> Behalf
> >> > Of
> >> > > > Atlanta CCIE
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:40 AM
> >> > > > To: Gary Duncanson; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >> > > > Subject: Re: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Because you had to score 59 on the lab to pass :)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 11/5/09, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > Atlanta,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Can you please clarify why you think the CCIE's who passed
> between
> >> > > > Feb and
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >> >
> >> >
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