Re: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday

in my opinion, V 4 ccie's will have more more opportunities than v3, as
every one is learning that which one is difficult to achieve. Of course
hiring managers are also on same ground.

Just my two cents...

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Cisco League,
>
> Good job m8. Totally agreed.
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Cisco League <ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Makes Sense!
> > Positive side is that with the new exam CCIE will continue to have shine
> > and
> > weightage. Seasoned, New and Future CCIEs all wanted this.
> > Something I gathered from the Ver 4 experiences people have shared is
> that
> > they are more determined than ever to work harder and go for it rather
> than
> > quiting.
> > We all need to study harder for whatever we are pursuing.
> >
> > As Scott says
> >
> > Knowledge is Power
> > Study Hard...and be Evil
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Walter <geyetan_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > None taken cisco league it is not personal :-) Anyway trust me i have
> > seen
> > > both sides of the coin as i have failed the lab first hand like every
> one
> > > else here and you don't get rid of that scar easily (i couldn't sleep
> for
> > > nights after my third failure and to make matters worse i missed my
> > flight
> > > which cost me an extra #200 and i almost messed up a very major project
> > for
> > > my company which would have cost me my job)
> > > A lot of the people you know have failed the exams due to OEQ's but a
> lot
> > > more i'm sure failed during that same window due to the main lab, you
> > like
> > > all of us don't know everyone who sat for the lab but my point is no
> > matter
> > > what your reason is for failing the fact is that you failed and if you
> > > prepare differently (harder, better, smarter i don't know I'm not a
> > trainer)
> > > you will eventually pass. I am hoping the attitude for V4 takers to
> Cisco
> > > will be "Bring it On"
> > >
> > > Ta
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Cisco League
> > <ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> WOW
> > >> Applause
> > >>
> > >> Why do you time and again fail to look at the other side of the coin?
> > You
> > >> loose 2 questions and you loose the Lab.
> > >> Give this some thought and stop looking only at one side of the coin.
> > >> (Unless ofcourse all the coins you have are double headed). ;-)
> > >>
> > >> Most of the people I know failed Ver3 not on configuration portion but
> > the
> > >> OEQs. Does that ring any bell and explains that they would have passed
> > if
> > >> there were no OEQs.
> > >>
> > >> P.S. Don't forget the added pressure, anxiety and fear of losing all
> > your
> > >> time, efforts and money invested for that one big day just because of
> a
> > >> couple of questions that you could have referenced on DocCD if u had
> > >> access.
> > >>
> > >> No hard Feelings ;-)
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I see why you getting all ticked off.. you actually got your #
> during
> > >> that
> > >> > period! Interesting :)
> > >> >
> > >> > As I said and as you have just said that 1 out of 4 questions is
> > >> difficult
> > >> > so that means you should be able to get 3 right and have 21 points
> on
> > >> the
> > >> > table?
> > >> >
> > >> > Now you still have what 7 hours left? and you have to grab 59
> points.
> > so
> > >> if
> > >> > you are strong @ L2/L3 (looking at the V3 feedback from GS) you
> should
> > >> be
> > >> > able to score 40-44 points. What that leaves you with is? 17 odd
> > points
> > >> > from
> > >> > REST OF THE EXAM! Enough time to look through DOCCD and pick points
> > >> where
> > >> > you think you are good with.
> > >> >
> > >> > THIS is the thing with V4 and I stress its no free ride. you have NO
> > >> time
> > >> > to
> > >> > look up things on DOCCD so you need to know EVERYTHING or you have
> to
> > >> come
> > >> > back.
> > >> >
> > >> > Are you telling me that is not easy? Come on you have got to be
> > kidding
> > >> me.
> > >> > You passed GREAT! but don't tell me it was not easy.
> > >> >
> > >> > Once again I am glad you worked hard and got your # but still easier
> > >> than
> > >> > folks who did it BEFORE feb 09 (had to score 80) or after Oct 18th.
> > >> >
> > >> > Take it for what its worth but truth hurts :)
> > >> >
> > >> > Have a blessed day!
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Ryan West <rwest_at_zyedge.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > What version of the lab did you take? Did you have to pass two
> > parts
> > >> or
> > >> > > one to get your number? Did you have to take a mini-exam where
> > >> personal
> > >> > > interpretation combined with an extremely small sample set
> > determined
> > >> > your
> > >> > > outcome? I'm sorry to break this to you, but the CCIE numbers
> > didn't
> > >> > jump
> > >> > > off the charts with OEQ's. The delta between the number of
> > questions
> > >> you
> > >> > > could get wrong between your version of the exam and post OEQ's is
> > 4.
> > >> > You
> > >> > > were given 30 minutes more to complete them and you were able to
> > >> approach
> > >> > > the lab with a clear mind. One of the main factors that so many
> > >> people
> > >> > are
> > >> > > having trouble with version 4 is that there are two new comers to
> > the
> > >> > exam,
> > >> > > still fresh OEQs and troubleshooting. To anyone who has sat the
> > exam
> > >> > with
> > >> > > OEQs, at least one of the questions is hard. It's fairly easy to
> > let
> > >> > those
> > >> > > questions cloud your mind during the exam. Imagine if you were
> > unsure
> > >> of
> > >> > > two, don't you think that would throw you off your game? If you
> > were
> > >> to
> > >> > > dissect version 4 into 3 parts, I'm sure it would be less of a
> > >> challenge.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Once again, I'm wondering what you actually add to this list,
> > besides
> > >> > > showing the world that you're a clown puncher.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
> > >> Behalf
> > >> > Of
> > >> > > > Atlanta CCIE
> > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:40 AM
> > >> > > > To: Gary Duncanson; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > >> > > > Subject: Re: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Because you had to score 59 on the lab to pass :)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On 11/5/09, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > > > > Atlanta,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Can you please clarify why you think the CCIE's who passed
> > between
> > >> > > > Feb and
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
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> > >> >
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