RE: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday

Personally I do not think that it is fair to say one CCIE is better than another just because the requirements have changed. My father-in-law got the living crap beat out of him for 13 weeks when he went through the boot camp for the Marine Corps. I went through a different type of hell for 13 weeks when I went through the boot camp in the 80's. Guess what! At the end, we both received the title of Marine.

Bottom line is, as Narbik pointed out, we just have to change our way of thinking, our way of studying, and our way of attacking the lab. Cisco has raised the bar in version 3 by returning to more troubleshooting. Awesome! I think it is great. But if I don't think it is great, do you really think Cisco cares? It is the golden rule.....he who has the gold makes the rules :)

So please keep the comments about who is better than who or other personal opinions that are not constructive for this list.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Ryan West
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:25 AM
To: Atlanta CCIE; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday

What version of the lab did you take? Did you have to pass two parts or one to get your number? Did you have to take a mini-exam where personal interpretation combined with an extremely small sample set determined your outcome? I'm sorry to break this to you, but the CCIE numbers didn't jump off the charts with OEQ's. The delta between the number of questions you could get wrong between your version of the exam and post OEQ's is 4. You were given 30 minutes more to complete them and you were able to approach the lab with a clear mind. One of the main factors that so many people are having trouble with version 4 is that there are two new comers to the exam, still fresh OEQs and troubleshooting. To anyone who has sat the exam with OEQs, at least one of the questions is hard. It's fairly easy to let those questions cloud your mind during the exam. Imagine if you were unsure of two, don't you think that would throw you off your game? If you were to dissect version 4 in!
 to 3 parts, I'm sure it would be less of a challenge.

Once again, I'm wondering what you actually add to this list, besides showing the world that you're a clown puncher.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Atlanta CCIE
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:40 AM
> To: Gary Duncanson; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday
>
> Because you had to score 59 on the lab to pass :)
>
> On 11/5/09, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Atlanta,
> >
> > Can you please clarify why you think the CCIE's who passed between
> Feb and

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