Re: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped

Narbik,

I think you hit the nail right on the head! The new format will really
expose ANY weakness in a CCIE candidate. You really have to learn every
technology on the blue print and be an expert on them with out the DocCD.
Once you can do that you will be able to pass the V4 exam with no problem.
Just my 2 cents.

Chris

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Guys,
>
> I am sorry for the late reply, i am still waiting to get a flight back
> home.
>
> But mate you are ready when you can look at the blueprint and answer all of
> your questions.
> I am a very conservative person, I WILL NOT take the lab unless i can
> answer
> all of my questions, for example, look at LDP and L3VPNs, can you close
> your
> eyes and see the commands? Can you do a "?" in your head and see all the
> options? Do you know what they are?
> I DO NOT MEAN MEMORIZE, please do not get me wrong, you should NEVER
> memorize, the only reason you will see the commands and their options is
> because you have configured them so many times its NOT funny. You should
> run
> IOS in your head instead of what ever it is that you are running. As long
> as
> its NOT the 12.4(15)T11 on 3725s (JK).
>
> But do you guys see what i am saying? Go through the entire blueprint and
> write down your weak areas, and hammer them out one by one, face them head
> on.
> Sometimes to satisfy our conscience, we go out there and purchase every
> bloody book we can get our hands on, and i bet there are lot of us that do
> that. But have we read all of them? I bet NOT even 15 percent of them.
> When we read a hard or a complex documentation, we normally bypass the
> areas
> that we do not understand, because we feel that if we don't understand them
> ITS PROBABLY NOT IMPORTANT, this is the philosophy that costs us few
> retries.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Evan Weston <evan_weston_at_hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm a fan of booking a date a long way out and sticking to it, it will
> make
> > you work as hard as you need to. Just keep addressing weaknesses as they
> > arise and hopefully you will peak on the week of the exam.
> >
> > I booked my lab date 9 months ahead. Cancelled my social life, booked
> > Narbik's bootcamp for 4 months out and just went for it. Also do what the
> > trainers say, for example if Narbik says to get the most out of his
> > workbooks "go through them at least twice and once along side with the
> > DocCD" then make a schedule and get it done. No point paying for books if
> > you don't use them the way the author says to. Same for INE mock labs,
> aim
> > to do them in the time limit, take the same amount of time as the real
> lab,
> > treat them seriously and don't be soft on marking yourself.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Pach
> > Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2009 10:18 AM
> > To: 'Justin Mitchell'; pocjamin_at_gmail.com
> > Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped
> >
> > Those 70 days are going to come up on your fast. 'Specially with the
> > holidays coming up.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Justin Mitchell
> > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 3:06 PM
> > To: pocjamin_at_gmail.com
> > Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped
> >
> > I've got 70 days: January 12, 2010 in San Jose.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:00 PM, BPoch <pocjamin_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > When are you taking your exam?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Justin Mitchell
> > > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:23 PM
> > > To: Narbik Kocharians
> > > Cc: Nathan Richie; larryh_at_ine.com; redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com;
> > > ttuner_at_gmail.com; jbccie_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped
> > >
> > > Feeling 100% ready is a tricky thing. If I waited to feel 100% ready to
> > > take
> > > the exam I doubt I would ever register and then would have second
> > thoughts
> > > when I finally did register.
> > >
> > > Everything I have heard from the CCIEs I work with is it is as much a
> > > mental
> > > thing as anything else. To me it is just another test, albeit an
> > expensive
> > > one with an airplane ride and some delicious food in San Jose.
> > >
> > > Justin "ready to fail the exam" Mitchell
> > > =)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nathan,
> > > > Only you know if you are ready, if you are shoot, if you are NOT,
> ONLY
> > > > register for the test when you are 100 percent ready.
> > > >
> > > > my 2 cents.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Nathan Richie <nathanr_at_boice.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Finalizing my study plans now and then will reschedule based upon
> > that.
> > > > I
> > > > > do not want to lose any momentum....
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your encouragement!
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Larry Hadrava [mailto:larryh_at_ine.com]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:54 PM
> > > > > To: Nathan Richie; redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com; ttuner_at_gmail.com
> > > > > Cc: jbccie_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped
> > > > >
> > > > > Nathan:
> > > > > When are you going back? I'm betting on YOU!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Larry Hadrava, Larryh_at_INE.com
> > > > >
> > > > > CCIE #12203 (R&S)
> > > > >
> > > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.INE.com <http://www.ine.com/> <http://www.ine.com/>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Nathan Richie" <nathanr_at_boice.net>
> > > > > Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 14:37
> > > > > Subject:RE: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped
> > > > >
> > > > > I ain't scared! :) I am prepping for my retake of V4 and plan on
> it
> > > > being
> > > > > my last
> > > > > because I pass it!
> > > > >
> > > > > Jonny - I think it is going to take more than just the vendors
> adding
> > > > > troubleshooting. In fact, I felt the troubleshooting was not bad
> at
> > > all.
> > > > > I missed
> > > > > it because of a weak area, but otherwise felt it was very doable.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think that Cisco is going to have to back off the configuration
> > some
> > > > and
> > > > > that we,
> > > > > the v4 candidates, are going to have to be rock solid in our
> > > > configuration
> > > > > ability
> > > > > with little to no help from the Doc CD lifeline. At some point,
> the
> > 2
> > > > > shall come
> > > > > together and we will see a v4 CCIE! Just my opinion though.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any gamblers on here? Anybody want to bet on when we will see the
> > > first
> > > > > v4 CCIE?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nathan Richie
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf
> > > Of
> > > > > Jonny English
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 4:34 PM
> > > > > To: JR Garcia
> > > > > Cc: Johnny B CCIE; groupstudy
> > > > > Subject: Re: CCIE R&S v4.0 results on as good as I hoped
> > > > >
> > > > > everyone should still remember the lab is still new.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris -- sorry to hear you didn't pass the lab. At least you are
> > > changing
> > > > > focus and going to abapt your study for the new format. Try to stay
> > as
> > > > > positive as you can and think about what you can do to beat this
> > thing
> > > > next
> > > > > time.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think once the training vendors come out with labs or people
> start
> > > > > changing the study stucture to include troubleshooting we will
> start
> > to
> > > > see
> > > > > people passing.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:51 AM, JR Garcia <ttuner_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > yeah i sure as hell wont take it until i start seeing some
> success
> > > > > stories.
> > > > > > i think it will just take a while for everyone (including
> training
> > > > > vendors)
> > > > > > to shift their focus.
> > > > > >
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