RE: No SP Dates Available

Take it whatever way you want for SP track. My personal hope is that the troubleshooting will be good enough to weed out the "unprepared" and OEQ will eventually go away.

My speculation is that the SP is going to drastically change soon and that is why they haven't introduced anything into the lab as far as OEQ. You will note that because the lack of OEQ's on the SP lab the number of SP CCIE's has more than doubled in the last year with people wanting to take it before they introduce OEQ's and make other changes. I am not saying that is because of cheaters but just a greater desire to get it out of the way for people. (I will include myself in that category.)

Essentially that is the reason there are no available dates right now as well ;) The busyness of the lab is on large part based on future speculation.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Larry Hadrava
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 1:13 PM
To: Scott Morris; ccie4lf_at_gmail.com
Cc: atlantaccie_at_gmail.com; sheherezada_at_gmail.com; gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: No SP Dates Available

Yes!!!;-)

Thanks

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Morris" <smorris_at_ine.com>
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 13:09
Subject:Re: No SP Dates Available
So would that be the conspiracy FOR the SP track, or AGAINST the
others?   ;)
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Puneet Kathpalia wrote:
> I feel there is a conspiracy. How long does it take to develop
> questions. Why was Sec/Voice/RnS so quick. I smell conspiracy :P
> ..Somehow cisco is trying to "inject" more people out there with SP.
>
> I guess we will never know :)
>
> Puneet
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com
> <mailto:smorris_at_ine.com>> wrote:
>
>     They'll be on all tracks shortly.  I just think there's developmental
>     delays.  :)  But soon.  Be prepared!
>
>
>
>
>     *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
>     #4713,
>
>     JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>
>     JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>
>     evil_at_ine.com <mailto:evil_at_ine.com>
>
>
>     Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>
>     http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>
>     Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>
>     Outside US: 775-826-4344
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>
>     Knowledge is power.
>
>     Power corrupts.
>
>     Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>
>
>
>
>
>     Puneet Kathpalia wrote:
>     > What I dont get is why has there been no OEQ introduced in SP
>     yet!! I agree
>     > with plenty of folks that OEQ is not the perfect solution but
>     why not have
>     > it in all  tracks. I am just pondering/wondering on the reason
>     behind this.
>     > I am sure that is not going to stop any seat "grabbing" but just
>     wondering
>     > why not SP.. why security ;)
>     >
>     > Regards
>     > Puneet
>     >
>     > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Atlanta CCIE
>     <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com <mailto:atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >> SP is the stepchild so yeah
>     >>
>     >> On 11/2/09, sheherezada_at_gmail.com
>     <mailto:sheherezada_at_gmail.com> <sheherezada_at_gmail.com
>     <mailto:sheherezada_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>> Of course. Personally, I wanted the SP first. But at that time, SP
>     >>> workbooks were almost inexistent, so I started with the R&amp;S.
>     After I
>     >>> cleared R&amp;S, SP was easier, even if it took me three attempts
>     to get
>     >>> it.
>     >>>
>     >>> Now facing the v4 changes, it might be easier to update (some)
>     >>> knowledge rather than facing a serious change of tactics. It
>     does make
>     >>> sense to me and maybe to those that already have some practical
>     >>> exposure to MPLS stuff.
>     >>>
>     >>> Besides, Marko is right when saying that SP did not change too
>     much.
>     >>> It did not, in three years already.
>     >>>
>     >>> Mihai
>     >>>
>     >>> On Monday, November 2, 2009, Gary Duncanson
>     >>> <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com
>     <mailto:gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>> You still have to pass the test though.  While there is some
>     crossover
>     >>>> without serious MPLS config background you can't pass SP.
>     Antonio has
>     >>>>
>     >> been
>     >>
>     >>>> preparing for SP for a while now and is still at it. No easy
>     stride
>     >>>>
>     >> across
>     >>
>     >>>> really from R&amp;S. Add to which some folks grumble at the SP
>     training
>     >>>> materials.
>     >>>>
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----- Original Message ----- From: <sheherezada_at_gmail.com
>     <mailto:sheherezada_at_gmail.com>>
>     >>>> To: "Marko Milivojevic" <markom_at_ipexpert.com
>     <mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com>>
>     >>>> Cc: "JAZ" <azeemu_at_gmail.com <mailto:azeemu_at_gmail.com>>;
>     "Majid Nazir Ahmad"
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>     >>>> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>>
>     >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:53 PM
>     >>>> Subject: Re: No SP Dates Available
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> I have another theory.  It might be recent R&amp;S candidates
>     chasing an
>     >>>> easier target.  The knowledge base is not much different,
>     while the SP
>     >>>> does not feature OEQ's and serious troubleshooting yet.  Why
>     not?  A
>     >>>> CCIE number is still a CCIE number, regardless the track.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Mihai
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Marko Milivojevic
>     <markom_at_ipexpert.com <mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com>>
>     >>>> wrote:
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 13:50, JAZ <azeemu_at_gmail.com
>     <mailto:azeemu_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Guys,
>     >>>> I am also looking for seat ... I tried everywhere , thats
>     true B there
>     >>>> is no seat available before April ... any idea how we can get
>     seat?
>     >>>> Cisco should add more seats or testing centers
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Demand for SP has traditionally been lower than for other tracks.
>     >>>> There are usually only 1-2 SP seats in lab centers. It used
>     to be only
>     >>>> 2-3 months waiting for any of them, but given all the rumors
>     about
>     >>>> pending SP exam updates and 3-month cancellation policy, I
>     think it's
>     >>>> "normal" to see this waiting period prolonged.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Keep refreshing, people are bound to cancel their seats. All
>     you need
>     >>>> to do is catch that.
>     >>>>
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