Re: CCIE R and S ver 4

Someone will pass soon.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> you take the name of vendors and every one is here to sell out...this time
> we ask to appear... lets see who gotta balls :)
>
>
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>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I have been saying that.. Scott is ready.. who else?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed... if vendors can not pass then who their products can do the
>>>> "Magic".
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Nadeem,
>>>> >
>>>> > You have a point. Each vendor should send their best man to the lab to
>>>> > prove that their product is adequate to help people study for and pass
>>>> > the new exam. If this no-pass continues they will either have to do
>>>> > this or start their going out of business sale.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > if some one gota balls he should re-appear instead of making huge
>>>> claims
>>>> > :)
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Who is going to attempt V4, having already numbers...
>>>> > > Some one show courage :)
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
>>>> >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> Guys if you think it is impossible and quit they have successfully
>>>> > weeded
>>>> > >> you out. Many have said they failed but it was passable if you know
>>>> the
>>>> > bp.
>>>> > >> My 2 cents
>>>> > >> Regards,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
>>>> > >> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>> > >> Cell: +1.586.212.6107
>>>> > >> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>> > >> Mailto: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> > >> From: jose manzano <josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
>>>> > >> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:32:17
>>>> > >> To: groupstudy<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>> > >> Subject: Re: CCIE R and S ver 4
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> There would be a study factor if it would be possible to pass the
>>>> exam ,
>>>> > >> but
>>>> > >> I have yet to read of anyone passing the new v4 lab.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Cisco will modify the v4 lab if in the end they have put together
>>>> a
>>>> > lab
>>>> > >> exam with unrealistic & unachievable expectations.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I for one though do not like the route it's going as it's
>>>> starting to
>>>> > >> feel like all this time i've invested, and continue to invest
>>>> preparing
>>>> > for
>>>> > >> this one exam is in vane as it's nearly impossible to achieve now.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Then again we are only a few weeks into the new exam, so lets see
>>>> how
>>>> > it
>>>> > >> plays out in the next few months i guess.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> > Cheaters don't care about that lol
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > On 11/2/09, Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >> > > what about study factor?
>>>> > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > >> > >
>>>> > >> > >> luck factor or F**K factor is prime issue of V4.
>>>> > >> > >>
>>>> > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Jack <
>>>> ccie.unnumbered_at_gmail.com>
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >> > >>
>>>> > >> > >> > In consulting business, we keep asking the client what they
>>>> want
>>>> > >> until
>>>> > >> > >> the
>>>> > >> > >> > case is clear before we give advice.
>>>> > >> > >> > Some people mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are
>>>> > vague.
>>>> > >> I
>>>> > >> > >> doubt
>>>> > >> > >> > Howard at RTP is that helpful in explaining the tickets,
>>>> based on
>>>> > my
>>>> > >> > two
>>>> > >> > >> > experience in V3. Last time when I was there, Howard left
>>>> early.
>>>> > >> His
>>>> > >> > >> > replacement/substitute was younger and much more polite,
>>>> humble,
>>>> > >> > modest,
>>>> > >> > >> and
>>>> > >> > >> > most of all, helpful. Thanks to the young gentleman, I was
>>>> able
>>>> > to
>>>> > >> > >> > clear
>>>> > >> > >> > one sentence in a configuration question, and one requirement
>>>> > which
>>>> > >> > was
>>>> > >> > >> not
>>>> > >> > >> > said in the entire question set. Maybe it was mentioned in
>>>> the
>>>> > >> > preface,
>>>> > >> > >> but
>>>> > >> > >> > I was too sick that day to search any statements outside the
>>>> > >> > questions.
>>>> > >> > >> > Howard could have answered, "this is basic knowledge (common
>>>> > >> sense)"
>>>> > >> > or
>>>> > >> > >> > "follow what the requirement says".
>>>> > >> > >> >
>>>> > >> > >> > Some mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are not
>>>> specific
>>>> > >> and
>>>> > >> > >> need
>>>> > >> > >> > time and luck to pin down. Time and luck are the focus of
>>>> V4, in
>>>> > my
>>>> > >> > >> humble
>>>> > >> > >> > opinion based on the feedbacks.
>>>> > >> > >> >
>>>> > >> > >> > Jack
>>>> > >> > >> >
>>>> > >> > >> >
>>>> > >> > >> > Terry Vinson wrote:
>>>> > >> > >> >
>>>> > >> > >> >> The old exam was centered around configuration, the new test
>>>> is
>>>> > >> > >> >> centered
>>>> > >> > >> >> more around consulting.
>>>> > >> > >> >>
>>>> > >> > >> >
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