Re: CCIE R and S ver 4

you take the name of vendors and every one is here to sell out...this time
we ask to appear... lets see who gotta balls :)

> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I have been saying that.. Scott is ready.. who else?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed... if vendors can not pass then who their products can do the
>>> "Magic".
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Nadeem,
>>> >
>>> > You have a point. Each vendor should send their best man to the lab to
>>> > prove that their product is adequate to help people study for and pass
>>> > the new exam. If this no-pass continues they will either have to do
>>> > this or start their going out of business sale.
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > if some one gota balls he should re-appear instead of making huge
>>> claims
>>> > :)
>>> > >
>>> > > Who is going to attempt V4, having already numbers...
>>> > > Some one show courage :)
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
>>> >
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Guys if you think it is impossible and quit they have successfully
>>> > weeded
>>> > >> you out. Many have said they failed but it was passable if you know
>>> the
>>> > bp.
>>> > >> My 2 cents
>>> > >> Regards,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
>>> > >> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>> > >> Cell: +1.586.212.6107
>>> > >> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>>> > >> Mailto: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
>>> > >>
>>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>>> > >> From: jose manzano <josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
>>> > >> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:32:17
>>> > >> To: groupstudy<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>> > >> Subject: Re: CCIE R and S ver 4
>>> > >>
>>> > >> There would be a study factor if it would be possible to pass the
>>> exam ,
>>> > >> but
>>> > >> I have yet to read of anyone passing the new v4 lab.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Cisco will modify the v4 lab if in the end they have put together
>>> a
>>> > lab
>>> > >> exam with unrealistic & unachievable expectations.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I for one though do not like the route it's going as it's
>>> starting to
>>> > >> feel like all this time i've invested, and continue to invest
>>> preparing
>>> > for
>>> > >> this one exam is in vane as it's nearly impossible to achieve now.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Then again we are only a few weeks into the new exam, so lets see
>>> how
>>> > it
>>> > >> plays out in the next few months i guess.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > Cheaters don't care about that lol
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > On 11/2/09, Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >> > > what about study factor?
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > >> luck factor or F**K factor is prime issue of V4.
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Jack <
>>> ccie.unnumbered_at_gmail.com>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> > In consulting business, we keep asking the client what they
>>> want
>>> > >> until
>>> > >> > >> the
>>> > >> > >> > case is clear before we give advice.
>>> > >> > >> > Some people mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are
>>> > vague.
>>> > >> I
>>> > >> > >> doubt
>>> > >> > >> > Howard at RTP is that helpful in explaining the tickets,
>>> based on
>>> > my
>>> > >> > two
>>> > >> > >> > experience in V3. Last time when I was there, Howard left
>>> early.
>>> > >> His
>>> > >> > >> > replacement/substitute was younger and much more polite,
>>> humble,
>>> > >> > modest,
>>> > >> > >> and
>>> > >> > >> > most of all, helpful. Thanks to the young gentleman, I was
>>> able
>>> > to
>>> > >> > >> > clear
>>> > >> > >> > one sentence in a configuration question, and one requirement
>>> > which
>>> > >> > was
>>> > >> > >> not
>>> > >> > >> > said in the entire question set. Maybe it was mentioned in
>>> the
>>> > >> > preface,
>>> > >> > >> but
>>> > >> > >> > I was too sick that day to search any statements outside the
>>> > >> > questions.
>>> > >> > >> > Howard could have answered, "this is basic knowledge (common
>>> > >> sense)"
>>> > >> > or
>>> > >> > >> > "follow what the requirement says".
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> > Some mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are not
>>> specific
>>> > >> and
>>> > >> > >> need
>>> > >> > >> > time and luck to pin down. Time and luck are the focus of
>>> V4, in
>>> > my
>>> > >> > >> humble
>>> > >> > >> > opinion based on the feedbacks.
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> > Jack
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> > Terry Vinson wrote:
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> >> The old exam was centered around configuration, the new test
>>> is
>>> > >> > >> >> centered
>>> > >> > >> >> more around consulting.
>>> > >> > >> >>
>>> > >> > >> >
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