Re: CCIE R and S ver 4

i bet there is some smart guy out that is studying for the exam right now
that will pass. the thing is, he is not wasting his time thinking about how
hard the exam is or waiting for someone else to pass and give him hope. he
is probably infront of his PC configuring something, breaking things and
learning how to troubleshoot..

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Nadeem,
>
> You have a point. Each vendor should send their best man to the lab to
> prove that their product is adequate to help people study for and pass
> the new exam. If this no-pass continues they will either have to do
> this or start their going out of business sale.
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > if some one gota balls he should re-appear instead of making huge claims
> :)
> >
> > Who is going to attempt V4, having already numbers...
> > Some one show courage :)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Guys if you think it is impossible and quit they have successfully
> weeded
> >> you out. Many have said they failed but it was passable if you know the
> bp.
> >> My 2 cents
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
> >> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
> >> Cell: +1.586.212.6107
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> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jose manzano <josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
> >> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:32:17
> >> To: groupstudy<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >> Subject: Re: CCIE R and S ver 4
> >>
> >> There would be a study factor if it would be possible to pass the exam ,
> >> but
> >> I have yet to read of anyone passing the new v4 lab.
> >>
> >> Cisco will modify the v4 lab if in the end they have put together a
> lab
> >> exam with unrealistic & unachievable expectations.
> >>
> >> I for one though do not like the route it's going as it's starting to
> >> feel like all this time i've invested, and continue to invest preparing
> for
> >> this one exam is in vane as it's nearly impossible to achieve now.
> >>
> >> Then again we are only a few weeks into the new exam, so lets see how
> it
> >> plays out in the next few months i guess.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Cheaters don't care about that lol
> >> >
> >> > On 11/2/09, Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > what about study factor?
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> luck factor or F**K factor is prime issue of V4.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Jack <ccie.unnumbered_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > In consulting business, we keep asking the client what they want
> >> until
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> > case is clear before we give advice.
> >> > >> > Some people mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are
> vague.
> >> I
> >> > >> doubt
> >> > >> > Howard at RTP is that helpful in explaining the tickets, based on
> my
> >> > two
> >> > >> > experience in V3. Last time when I was there, Howard left early.
> >> His
> >> > >> > replacement/substitute was younger and much more polite, humble,
> >> > modest,
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> > most of all, helpful. Thanks to the young gentleman, I was able
> to
> >> > >> > clear
> >> > >> > one sentence in a configuration question, and one requirement
> which
> >> > was
> >> > >> not
> >> > >> > said in the entire question set. Maybe it was mentioned in the
> >> > preface,
> >> > >> but
> >> > >> > I was too sick that day to search any statements outside the
> >> > questions.
> >> > >> > Howard could have answered, "this is basic knowledge (common
> >> sense)"
> >> > or
> >> > >> > "follow what the requirement says".
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Some mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are not specific
> >> and
> >> > >> need
> >> > >> > time and luck to pin down. Time and luck are the focus of V4, in
> my
> >> > >> humble
> >> > >> > opinion based on the feedbacks.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Jack
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Terry Vinson wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> The old exam was centered around configuration, the new test is
> >> > >> >> centered
> >> > >> >> more around consulting.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
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