Re: CCIE R and S ver 4

I have been saying that.. Scott is ready.. who else?

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Agreed... if vendors can not pass then who their products can do the
> "Magic".
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Nadeem,
> >
> > You have a point. Each vendor should send their best man to the lab to
> > prove that their product is adequate to help people study for and pass
> > the new exam. If this no-pass continues they will either have to do
> > this or start their going out of business sale.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > if some one gota balls he should re-appear instead of making huge
> claims
> > :)
> > >
> > > Who is going to attempt V4, having already numbers...
> > > Some one show courage :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Guys if you think it is impossible and quit they have successfully
> > weeded
> > >> you out. Many have said they failed but it was passable if you know
> the
> > bp.
> > >> My 2 cents
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
> > >> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
> > >> Cell: +1.586.212.6107
> > >> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > >> Mailto: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: jose manzano <josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
> > >> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:32:17
> > >> To: groupstudy<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: CCIE R and S ver 4
> > >>
> > >> There would be a study factor if it would be possible to pass the exam
> ,
> > >> but
> > >> I have yet to read of anyone passing the new v4 lab.
> > >>
> > >> Cisco will modify the v4 lab if in the end they have put together a
> > lab
> > >> exam with unrealistic & unachievable expectations.
> > >>
> > >> I for one though do not like the route it's going as it's starting
> to
> > >> feel like all this time i've invested, and continue to invest
> preparing
> > for
> > >> this one exam is in vane as it's nearly impossible to achieve now.
> > >>
> > >> Then again we are only a few weeks into the new exam, so lets see how
> > it
> > >> plays out in the next few months i guess.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Cheaters don't care about that lol
> > >> >
> > >> > On 11/2/09, Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > > what about study factor?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> luck factor or F**K factor is prime issue of V4.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Jack <ccie.unnumbered_at_gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > In consulting business, we keep asking the client what they
> want
> > >> until
> > >> > >> the
> > >> > >> > case is clear before we give advice.
> > >> > >> > Some people mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are
> > vague.
> > >> I
> > >> > >> doubt
> > >> > >> > Howard at RTP is that helpful in explaining the tickets, based
> on
> > my
> > >> > two
> > >> > >> > experience in V3. Last time when I was there, Howard left
> early.
> > >> His
> > >> > >> > replacement/substitute was younger and much more polite,
> humble,
> > >> > modest,
> > >> > >> and
> > >> > >> > most of all, helpful. Thanks to the young gentleman, I was
> able
> > to
> > >> > >> > clear
> > >> > >> > one sentence in a configuration question, and one requirement
> > which
> > >> > was
> > >> > >> not
> > >> > >> > said in the entire question set. Maybe it was mentioned in the
> > >> > preface,
> > >> > >> but
> > >> > >> > I was too sick that day to search any statements outside the
> > >> > questions.
> > >> > >> > Howard could have answered, "this is basic knowledge (common
> > >> sense)"
> > >> > or
> > >> > >> > "follow what the requirement says".
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Some mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are not
> specific
> > >> and
> > >> > >> need
> > >> > >> > time and luck to pin down. Time and luck are the focus of V4,
> in
> > my
> > >> > >> humble
> > >> > >> > opinion based on the feedbacks.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Jack
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Terry Vinson wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> The old exam was centered around configuration, the new test
> is
> > >> > >> >> centered
> > >> > >> >> more around consulting.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
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