Re: CCIE R and S ver 4

Nadeem,

You have a point. Each vendor should send their best man to the lab to
prove that their product is adequate to help people study for and pass
the new exam. If this no-pass continues they will either have to do
this or start their going out of business sale.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> if some one gota balls he should re-appear instead of making huge claims :)
>
> Who is going to attempt V4, having already numbers...
> Some one show courage :)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
>
>> Guys if you think it is impossible and quit they have successfully weeded
>> you out. Many have said they failed but it was passable if you know the bp.
>> My 2 cents
>> Regards,
>>
>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jose manzano <josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:32:17
>> To: groupstudy<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Subject: Re: CCIE R and S ver 4
>>
>> There would be a study factor if it would be possible to pass the exam ,
>> but
>> I have yet to read of anyone passing the new v4 lab.
>>
>> Cisco will modify the v4 lab if in the end they have put together a lab
>> exam with unrealistic & unachievable expectations.
>>
>> I for one though do not like the route it's going as it's starting to
>> feel like all this time i've invested, and continue to invest preparing for
>> this one exam is in vane as it's nearly impossible to achieve now.
>>
>> Then again we are only a few weeks into the new exam, so lets see how it
>> plays out in the next few months i guess.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Cheaters don't care about that lol
>> >
>> > On 11/2/09, Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > what about study factor?
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> luck factor or F**K factor is prime issue of V4.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Jack <ccie.unnumbered_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > In consulting business, we keep asking the client what they want
>> until
>> > >> the
>> > >> > case is clear before we give advice.
>> > >> > Some people mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are vague.
>> I
>> > >> doubt
>> > >> > Howard at RTP is that helpful in explaining the tickets, based on my
>> > two
>> > >> > experience in V3. Last time when I was there, Howard left early.
>> His
>> > >> > replacement/substitute was younger and much more polite, humble,
>> > modest,
>> > >> and
>> > >> > most of all, helpful. Thanks to the young gentleman, I was able to
>> > >> > clear
>> > >> > one sentence in a configuration question, and one requirement which
>> > was
>> > >> not
>> > >> > said in the entire question set. Maybe it was mentioned in the
>> > preface,
>> > >> but
>> > >> > I was too sick that day to search any statements outside the
>> > questions.
>> > >> > Howard could have answered, "this is basic knowledge (common
>> sense)"
>> > or
>> > >> > "follow what the requirement says".
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Some mentioned that some troubleshooting tickets are not specific
>> and
>> > >> need
>> > >> > time and luck to pin down. Time and luck are the focus of V4, in my
>> > >> humble
>> > >> > opinion based on the feedbacks.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Jack
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Terry Vinson wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> The old exam was centered around configuration, the new test is
>> > >> >> centered
>> > >> >> more around consulting.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
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