Re: AM I READING RIGHT? from mark jackson on 2009-10-25 (Ccielab archives 10/2009)

From: mark jackson <markcciejackson_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:08:22 -0700

And my sincerest apology for misconception I may have conveyed.

Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736

Sent from my iPhone
Please excuse spelling errors

On Oct 25, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark,
>
> So far I have been using common materials that are available for sale
> and use. I am also using the online resources provided by Cisco. I am
> using anything that might be expected of any other person who has paid
> for a lab exam. I am no different. Presently I am using the products
> from Internetworkexpert.com and I will use others when I have
> completed these if time permits. The only policy I have is to pass the
> exam and win the wager.
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 1:15 PM, mark jackson <markcciejackson_at_gmail.com
> > wrote:
>> LoL. On the moral boundaires statement. Wouldn't want anyone to
>> assume
>> you are doing things against policies ;-)
>>
>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Please excuse spelling errors
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you. I don't want anyone to misunderstand me. I am in this for
>>> the bet and it is worth it to me and I will win the bet. If the bet
>>> was for 30 days then I'd win the bet in 30 days. I have no
>>> pretentions
>>> of what it will take me to do this nor are there any moral
>>> boundaries.
>>> It is simply a bet to pass a test. Win or lose. I get paid to win
>>> and
>>> I do get paid. I'm not a betting man myself if you know what I mean.
>>> It's like taking candy from a baby.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Narbik Kocharians
>>> <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Johnny,
>>>>
>>>> I am sure you are studying hard and based on what i am reading you
>>>> are
>>>> knowledgable as well, but the written can be done in 4 days if you
>>>> wanted
>>>> to, but when it comes to the lab, you must agree that it takes some
>>>> serious
>>>> studying.
>>>>
>>>> Even the written requires some serious studying, unless one goes to
>>>> test
>>>> preps. (I did NOT say that you did that). Reading 10 books, will
>>>> take about
>>>> a month or two to complete, and its NOT reading ONLY, its
>>>> understanding it
>>>> all so you can pass the test.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, i think you will do it, because you say to yourself "I have
>>>> to", which
>>>> is GR8.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am doing it as a bet. A friend of mine said I could not pass the
>>>>> CCIE Written in less than 30 days. I took the test within a week
>>>>> and
>>>>> won the bet. Now he said I could not take and pass the CCIE Lab
>>>>> within
>>>>> 6 months. Well guess what? I am going to win that bet too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> If that is the case then why waste your time on the CCIE?
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
>>>>>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>>> Cell: +1.586.212.6107
>>>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>>>> Mailto: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: armylegionmedic_at_aol.com
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:51:41
>>>>>> To: <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: AM I READING RIGHT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not meant to offend or be rude in any fashion or manor,
>>>>>> just a
>>>>>> personal opinion. I remember someone made a comment awhile back
>>>>>> that the
>>>>>> CCIE
>>>>>> is turning into the MCSE (How it was and what it became) and
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> person
>>>>>> responded saying no it wasnt. I have to respectfully disagree
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>> person
>>>>>> who said it wasnt. I feel it is day by day. I believe that in a
>>>>>> few
>>>>>> years the
>>>>>> CCIE will be exactly the same as an MCSE and Cisco certs will
>>>>>> loose
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> stature. I base this off of what Cisco has recently done and what
>>>>>> Microsoft
>>>>>> tried to do to save their program. They came out with the
>>>>>> "Masters"
>>>>>> Program
>>>>>> and then once you passed this you could go for the "Architect"
>>>>>> Program.
>>>>>> Now
>>>>>> with Cisco doing this CCA, I truly and saddened to say I really
>>>>>> feel
>>>>>> Cisco
>>>>>> will be right behind Microsoft soon. This is simply my
>>>>>> observation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Smooth IE <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>
>>>>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 25, 2009 6:32 am
>>>>>> Subject: Re: AM I READING RIGHT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WIthin 3 years all Cisco exams will be sub-contracted out to Vue,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> format
>>>>>> won't be the same just it will have Cisco vetted Vue henchmen as
>>>>>> proctors.
>>>>>> This will simply menm that you will be able to sit the lab in
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> locations, so yes it will be in a country near you :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Watch this speace....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/10/25 Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also heard from a couple people that Cisco is looking at doing
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> lab
>>>>>>> exams at the VUE Professional centers (same as the CCDE). I can
>>>>>>> imagine
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> it could save Cisco a lot of money for maintaining their own
>>>>>>> CCIE
>>>>>>> 'floors'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rick Mur
>>>>>>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24 okt 2009, at 12:53, Iwan Hoogendoorn wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For now the Written exams are given @ Vue exam centers...
>>>>>>>> And the Lab is still @ Cisco ... but I don't know what the
>>>>>>>> future will
>>>>>>>> bring...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
>>>>>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>>>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM, <armylegionmedic_at_aol.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So I got this email this morning from Cisco
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Effective October 19, 2009 Cisco CCIEB. Routing and Switching
>>>>>>>>> v4.0
>>>>>>>>> certification exams are now available in all VUE testing
>>>>>>>>> locations
>>>>>>>>> worldwide.
>>>>>>>>> Both the written and lab exams have been refreshed with new
>>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>> covering
>>>>>>>>> MPLS and VPN networking. The written exam includes new
>>>>>>>>> scenario-based
>>>>>>>>> questions. The lab exam now requires hands-on
>>>>>>>>> troubleshooting of
>>>>>>>>> preconfigured
>>>>>>>>> networks, in addition to configuration. Exam duration and
>>>>>>>>> pricing
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> remain
>>>>>>>>> the same, with the two-hour written exam at USD $350.00 and
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> eight-hour lab
>>>>>>>>> at USD $1400.00
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am I reading it correctly that even the R&S Lab will be at Vue
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> well?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
>>>>>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>>>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
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>>>> CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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