Re: AM I READING RIGHT?

Are INE stuff legit?

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark,
>
> So far I have been using common materials that are available for sale
> and use. I am also using the online resources provided by Cisco. I am
> using anything that might be expected of any other person who has paid
> for a lab exam. I am no different. Presently I am using the products
> from Internetworkexpert.com and I will use others when I have
> completed these if time permits. The only policy I have is to pass the
> exam and win the wager.
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 1:15 PM, mark jackson <markcciejackson_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > LoL. On the moral boundaires statement. Wouldn't want anyone to assume
> > you are doing things against policies ;-)
> >
> > Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > Please excuse spelling errors
> >
> > On Oct 25, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you. I don't want anyone to misunderstand me. I am in this for
> >> the bet and it is worth it to me and I will win the bet. If the bet
> >> was for 30 days then I'd win the bet in 30 days. I have no pretentions
> >> of what it will take me to do this nor are there any moral boundaries.
> >> It is simply a bet to pass a test. Win or lose. I get paid to win and
> >> I do get paid. I'm not a betting man myself if you know what I mean.
> >> It's like taking candy from a baby.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Narbik Kocharians
> >> <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Johnny,
> >>>
> >>> I am sure you are studying hard and based on what i am reading you
> >>> are
> >>> knowledgable as well, but the written can be done in 4 days if you
> >>> wanted
> >>> to, but when it comes to the lab, you must agree that it takes some
> >>> serious
> >>> studying.
> >>>
> >>> Even the written requires some serious studying, unless one goes to
> >>> test
> >>> preps. (I did NOT say that you did that). Reading 10 books, will
> >>> take about
> >>> a month or two to complete, and its NOT reading ONLY, its
> >>> understanding it
> >>> all so you can pass the test.
> >>>
> >>> BTW, i think you will do it, because you say to yourself "I have
> >>> to", which
> >>> is GR8.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I am doing it as a bet. A friend of mine said I could not pass the
> >>>> CCIE Written in less than 30 days. I took the test within a week and
> >>>> won the bet. Now he said I could not take and pass the CCIE Lab
> >>>> within
> >>>> 6 months. Well guess what? I am going to win that bet too.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Joe Astorino <
> jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
> >>>> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> If that is the case then why waste your time on the CCIE?
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
> >>>>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
> >>>>> Cell: +1.586.212.6107
> >>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> >>>>> Mailto: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: armylegionmedic_at_aol.com
> >>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:51:41
> >>>>> To: <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: AM I READING RIGHT?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is not meant to offend or be rude in any fashion or manor,
> >>>>> just a
> >>>>> personal opinion. I remember someone made a comment awhile back
> >>>>> that the
> >>>>> CCIE
> >>>>> is turning into the MCSE (How it was and what it became) and
> >>>>> another
> >>>>> person
> >>>>> responded saying no it wasnt. I have to respectfully disagree
> >>>>> with the
> >>>>> person
> >>>>> who said it wasnt. I feel it is day by day. I believe that in a few
> >>>>> years the
> >>>>> CCIE will be exactly the same as an MCSE and Cisco certs will loose
> >>>>> their
> >>>>> stature. I base this off of what Cisco has recently done and what
> >>>>> Microsoft
> >>>>> tried to do to save their program. They came out with the "Masters"
> >>>>> Program
> >>>>> and then once you passed this you could go for the "Architect"
> >>>>> Program.
> >>>>> Now
> >>>>> with Cisco doing this CCA, I truly and saddened to say I really
> >>>>> feel
> >>>>> Cisco
> >>>>> will be right behind Microsoft soon. This is simply my observation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Smooth IE <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>
> >>>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 25, 2009 6:32 am
> >>>>> Subject: Re: AM I READING RIGHT?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WIthin 3 years all Cisco exams will be sub-contracted out to Vue,
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> format
> >>>>> won't be the same just it will have Cisco vetted Vue henchmen as
> >>>>> proctors.
> >>>>> This will simply menm that you will be able to sit the lab in more
> >>>>> locations, so yes it will be in a country near you :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Watch this speace....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2009/10/25 Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I also heard from a couple people that Cisco is looking at doing
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> lab
> >>>>>> exams at the VUE Professional centers (same as the CCDE). I can
> >>>>>> imagine
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>> it could save Cisco a lot of money for maintaining their own CCIE
> >>>>>> 'floors'.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rick Mur
> >>>>>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> >>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 24 okt 2009, at 12:53, Iwan Hoogendoorn wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For now the Written exams are given @ Vue exam centers...
> >>>>>>> And the Lab is still @ Cisco ... but I don't know what the
> >>>>>>> future will
> >>>>>>> bring...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
> >>>>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
> >>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> >>>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM, <armylegionmedic_at_aol.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So I got this email this morning from Cisco
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Effective October 19, 2009 Cisco CCIEB. Routing and Switching
> >>>>>>>> v4.0
> >>>>>>>> certification exams are now available in all VUE testing
> >>>>>>>> locations
> >>>>>>>> worldwide.
> >>>>>>>> Both the written and lab exams have been refreshed with new
> >>>>>>>> questions
> >>>>>>>> covering
> >>>>>>>> MPLS and VPN networking. The written exam includes new
> >>>>>>>> scenario-based
> >>>>>>>> questions. The lab exam now requires hands-on troubleshooting of
> >>>>>>>> preconfigured
> >>>>>>>> networks, in addition to configuration. Exam duration and
> >>>>>>>> pricing
> >>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>> remain
> >>>>>>>> the same, with the two-hour written exam at USD $350.00 and the
> >>>>>>>> eight-hour lab
> >>>>>>>> at USD $1400.00
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Am I reading it correctly that even the R&S Lab will be at Vue
> >>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>> well?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> James
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
> >>>>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
> >>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> >>>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Narbik Kocharians
> >>> CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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