Hi Nadeem!
I recommend you reread my post this time :)
You just made the exact points I did.
On Oct 8, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Nadeem Rafi wrote:
> Hi anthony i will recommend you to watch ccbootcamp video this time :)
> Murilio said clearly that there will be no layer two trouble tickets
> in trouble shooting section. Second one trouble ticket will not
> affect any other trouble ticket, this is main reason to have so many
> routers to make trouble tickets independent of each other.
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
> wrote:
> While we *only* feature 13 devices in our Troubleshooting materials,
> we ensure the candidate is tested at all possible levels. For
> example, in the new 6-Day R&S Bootcamp, Trouble Tickets encompass
> issues like Layer 2, Layer 3 IGP Routing, Layer 3 EGP Routing, and
> Multicast troubleshooting.
>
> Also remember, just because Cisco might present 20 devices in the
> overall section - the Trouble Tickets will certainly not incorporate
> all of the devices at once. In fact, with students receiving 10 to
> 12 Trouble Tickets, it is quite clear that these are issues that are
> rather isolated throughout the topology.
>
> Also worth mention is the fact that Layer 2/3 switch troubleshooting
> must still be isolated to the Configuration section now since the
> emulator does not support switches.
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
> http://www.INE.com
>
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>
>
>
> On Oct 8, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Charles.Henson_at_regions.com wrote:
>
> WOW. So if that is the case, it makes things interesting. How do
> potential
> candidates emulate that environment for studies? Realistically how
> far down
> could you scale it and still get the same benefit for the
> troubleshooting
> section? How do vendors like IE, IPE, CCBootcamp, etc. come up with
> workbooks and training that emulates that? Again, we're a bit ahead
> of the
> game here.....
>
> I have also pushed 20 devices on dynamips with an older dual 3.2 HP
> server
> and 6gb of memory that I had available for testing. For the fun of
> it, I
> have reached out this morning to the server team to ask if I can
> "borrow"
> one of their new fat servers for a day to see how far I can push
> dynamips.
> 8 way cores with 64gb of memory are the norm. It's not something every
> candidate can pick up at the pawn shop but I just want to see how far
> dynamips will go.
>
> Has anyone "pushed" dynamips before to see what kind of cap it may
> or may
> not have?
>
> Charles Henson
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Tyson Scott" <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>
>
> To: "'Peter Dsouza \(petdsouz\)'" <petdsouz_at_cisco.com>, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
> >
>
> Cc: "'Brad Ellis'" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>, <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >, "'Justin Mitchell'" <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>, "'Nathan
> Richie'" <nathanr_at_boice.net>, <nobody_at_groupstudy.com>,
> "'Nadeem Rafi'" <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>
> Date: 10/08/2009 12:37 AM
>
> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Peter,
>
> There is talk that the troubleshooting portion of the lab could
> consist of
> up to 30 routers for a given troubleshooting lab. I would like to see
> anyone get 30 routers running stable on their workstation with
> Dynamips
> supporting the latest 12.4T code and the right memory requirements.
> I can
> get 20 routers on my 8 core 16 GB memory no problem but 30 is
> pushing it
> for
> sure. And how many people have a system like that sitting around.
>
> On the same system running IOU I could probably run close to 100
> routers
> without the blink of an eye.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Cell: +1.248.504.7309
> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Dsouza (petdsouz) [mailto:petdsouz_at_cisco.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:08 AM
> To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com; Tyson Scott
> Cc: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Justin Mitchell; Nathan
> Richie;
> nobody_at_groupstudy.com; Nadeem Rafi
> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> There is no need to get your hands on IOU if you've Dynamips. Its
> just
> an internal Cisco router emulator. Supported on Linux and Sun, suports
> Ethernet (no FE or GE), ATM and serial interfaces.
>
> cheers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:23 AM
> To: Tyson Scott
> Cc: 'Brad Ellis'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; 'Justin Mitchell'; 'Nathan
> Richie'; nobody_at_groupstudy.com; 'Nadeem Rafi'
> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> Thanks for the education everyone. Not being a Cisco insider I had
> always
> assumed they developed and played on virtual gear but didn't know the
> name
> or capability. Yeah, I assumed we would not have direct access to
> anything
> except terminals so it would be transparent to us.
>
> Now where do we get the IOU ISO? :)
>
> Charles Henson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Tyson Scott" <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>
>
>
>
> To: <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>, "'Justin Mitchell'"
> <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>
>
>
> Cc: "'Brad Ellis'" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>,
> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, "'Nathan Richie'" <nathanr_at_boice.net>,
>
> <nobody_at_groupstudy.com>, "'Nadeem Rafi'"
> <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Date: 10/07/2009 07:19 PM
>
>
>
> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Charles,
>
> IOU is actually more stable than dynamips but from your perspective
> you
> won't know the difference as you will just have terminal access to the
> routers as you would other devices in the lab.
>
> IOU has been around for a long time. Originally it was only supported
> on
> SUN workstations with a SPARC processor but within the last few
> years it
> has
> migrated to mostly Linux and was always a very good tool when I worked
> for
> Advanced Services.
>
> IOU has always been a tightly kept secret of Cisco's. Not sure if
> they
> will
> release it to learning partners as we were never allowed to show it to
> our
> customers.
>
> I would love to get my hands on it as it is better than dynamips and
> more
> efficient. But thank heavens for dynamips right for the rest of us.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Cell: +1.248.504.7309
> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 5:31 PM
> To: Justin Mitchell
> Cc: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Nathan Richie;
> nobody_at_groupstudy.com; Nadeem Rafi
> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> I wasn't very clear. I am very familiar with dynamips/GNS3. I was just
> curious how close IOU would look/feel to the GNS3 that many of us are
> used
> to. More than likely, we'll just get terminal windows and won't know
> the
> difference........until it crashes.... :)
>
> Charles Henson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Justin Mitchell <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>
>
>
>
> To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
>
>
>
> Cc: Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>, ccielab_at_groupstudy.com,
> Nathan Richie <nathanr_at_boice.net>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com,
> Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Date: 10/07/2009 03:59 PM
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> No, GNS3 is a whole separate project used Dynamips and Dynagen. GNS3
> is actually just a GUI for Dynamips/Dynagen to make it easier to use.
> Dynamips is a hardware emulator.
>
> Justin G. Mitchell
> e: jgmitchell_at_gmail.com | skype: justin.g.mitchell
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com> wrote:
> Just finished watching. Thanks for the link Brad.
>
> Does IOU = GNS3?
>
> Charles Henson
>
>
>
>
> From: "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>
> To: "Nadeem Rafi" <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>
> Cc: "Nathan Richie" <nathanr_at_boice.net>,
> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>
> Date: 10/07/2009 12:21 PM
>
> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Right here:
>
>
>
>
> https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/lsr.php?AT=pb&SP=EC&rID=40520377
> &rKey=4a695ccb75726703
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Brad Ellis
>
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>
> CCSI# 30482
>
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>
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>
>
> From: Nadeem Rafi [mailto:nrafia_at_gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:22 AM
> To: Brad Ellis
> Cc: Nathan Richie; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
>
>
> i have missed the webnar.. how to get recording?
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
> wrote:
>
> Nathan.
>
> As you probably saw in the webinar yesterday, the new exam will be
> comprised of three different separate sections:
>
> Core Knowledge (OEQ)
> Troubleshooting
> Configuration
>
> You must pass EACH individual section in order to pass the lab exam.
> In
> other words, if you fail a single section, then you fail the exam. One
> of the most interesting items that was discussed during the event
> yesterday is the direction Cisco is heading with using virtual
> equipment. The ENTIRE troubleshooting portion of the new lab exam will
> be done on Cisco IOU (software emulator). This gives the lab exam team
> the ability to conjure up a larger network very easily. Fun stuff!
>
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> CCSI# 30482
> CEO / President
> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Richie [mailto:nathanr_at_boice.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:49 PM
> To: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> Cool, thanks Brad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Ellis [mailto:brad_at_ccbootcamp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:35 PM
> To: Nathan Richie; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> Nathan,
>
> Hi! I had dinner with Maurilio tonight (and Russ White). Maurilio did
> confirm that he is going to discuss the details of the score
> requirements in the webinar next week. Should be interesting to hear
> people's feedback... :)
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> CCSI# 30482
> CEO / President
> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Nathan Richie
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:51 AM
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> Does anybody know if any more has been said about the scoring of the
> version 4
> lab? I have heard and read that you will need 80 points, but I was
> wondering
> if Cisco has or if anybody thinks Cisco will provide any more detail
> than
> that.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nathan Richie
>
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