Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring

Brad thanks for you suggestion but who will pay this 360 "huge money". If
you can find out this solution it will be great help :) May be 360 is good
but money wise INE is best :)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:

> Very correct Nadeem. Layer 2 troubleshooting will be in the
> configuration portion of the new lab exam (per Maurilio). The
> troubleshooting portion of the new exam will focus on Layer 3 and above
> issues. The Cisco 360 developers already have the inside track on this.
> If you're looking to study for the new V4 lab exam, I'd really suggest
> using Cisco 360 (even if you don't purchase it from CCBOOTCAMP and you
> go to a different 360 provider). One of the huge goals of the Cisco 360
> Learning Program is stream-lining the learning process, even more so for
> V4, in an effort to remove 6 months or so from other study methods
> (check the slides in the preso we did that Rick presented). I've cc'd
> Rick on this email, and you are more than welcome to contact him as well
> with any direct questions regarding Cisco 360's learning/training
> methodology.
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Nadeem Rafi
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:25 AM
> To: Anthony Sequeira
> Cc: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> Hi anthony i will recommend you to watch ccbootcamp video this time
> :)Murilio
> said clearly that there will be no layer two trouble tickets in trouble
> shooting section. Second one trouble ticket will not affect any other
> trouble ticket, this is main reason to have so many routers to make
> trouble
> tickets independent of each other.
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
> wrote:
>
> > While we *only* feature 13 devices in our Troubleshooting materials,
> we
> > ensure the candidate is tested at all possible levels. For example, in
> the
> > new 6-Day R&S Bootcamp, Trouble Tickets encompass issues like Layer 2,
> Layer
> > 3 IGP Routing, Layer 3 EGP Routing, and Multicast troubleshooting.
> >
> > Also remember, just because Cisco might present 20 devices in the
> overall
> > section - the Trouble Tickets will certainly not incorporate all of
> the
> > devices at once. In fact, with students receiving 10 to 12 Trouble
> Tickets,
> > it is quite clear that these are issues that are rather isolated
> throughout
> > the topology.
> >
> > Also worth mention is the fact that Layer 2/3 switch troubleshooting
> must
> > still be isolated to the Configuration section now since the emulator
> does
> > not support switches.
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> >
> > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
> > http://www.INE.com
> >
> > Test your Core Knowledge today!
> > Q: What PIM mode was invented by Cisco for Auto-RP functionality?
> > A: PIM SParse-Dense-Mode
> > More Info:
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipmulti/configuration/guide/imc_tech
> _oview_ps6350_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html#wp1054989
> >
> >
> >
> > On Oct 8, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Charles.Henson_at_regions.com wrote:
> >
> > WOW. So if that is the case, it makes things interesting. How do
> potential
> >> candidates emulate that environment for studies? Realistically how
> far
> >> down
> >> could you scale it and still get the same benefit for the
> troubleshooting
> >> section? How do vendors like IE, IPE, CCBootcamp, etc. come up with
> >> workbooks and training that emulates that? Again, we're a bit ahead
> of the
> >> game here.....
> >>
> >> I have also pushed 20 devices on dynamips with an older dual 3.2 HP
> server
> >> and 6gb of memory that I had available for testing. For the fun of
> it, I
> >> have reached out this morning to the server team to ask if I can
> "borrow"
> >> one of their new fat servers for a day to see how far I can push
> dynamips.
> >> 8 way cores with 64gb of memory are the norm. It's not something
> every
> >> candidate can pick up at the pawn shop but I just want to see how far
> >> dynamips will go.
> >>
> >> Has anyone "pushed" dynamips before to see what kind of cap it may or
> may
> >> not have?
> >>
> >> Charles Henson
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "Tyson Scott" <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>
> >>
> >> To: "'Peter Dsouza \(petdsouz\)'" <petdsouz_at_cisco.com>, <
> >> Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>
> >>
> >> Cc: "'Brad Ellis'" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>, <
> >> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, "'Justin Mitchell'" <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>,
> >> "'Nathan
> >> Richie'" <nathanr_at_boice.net>, <nobody_at_groupstudy.com>,
> >> "'Nadeem Rafi'" <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Date: 10/08/2009 12:37 AM
> >>
> >> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter,
> >>
> >> There is talk that the troubleshooting portion of the lab could
> consist of
> >> up to 30 routers for a given troubleshooting lab. I would like to
> see
> >> anyone get 30 routers running stable on their workstation with
> Dynamips
> >> supporting the latest 12.4T code and the right memory requirements.
> I can
> >> get 20 routers on my 8 core 16 GB memory no problem but 30 is pushing
> it
> >> for
> >> sure. And how many people have a system like that sitting around.
> >>
> >> On the same system running IOU I could probably run close to 100
> routers
> >> without the blink of an eye.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
> >> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
> >>
> >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> >> Cell: +1.248.504.7309
> >> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> >> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Peter Dsouza (petdsouz) [mailto:petdsouz_at_cisco.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:08 AM
> >> To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com; Tyson Scott
> >> Cc: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Justin Mitchell; Nathan
> Richie;
> >> nobody_at_groupstudy.com; Nadeem Rafi
> >> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>
> >> There is no need to get your hands on IOU if you've Dynamips. Its
> just
> >> an internal Cisco router emulator. Supported on Linux and Sun,
> suports
> >> Ethernet (no FE or GE), ATM and serial interfaces.
> >>
> >> cheers
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >> Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:23 AM
> >> To: Tyson Scott
> >> Cc: 'Brad Ellis'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; 'Justin Mitchell'; 'Nathan
> >> Richie'; nobody_at_groupstudy.com; 'Nadeem Rafi'
> >> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>
> >> Thanks for the education everyone. Not being a Cisco insider I had
> >> always
> >> assumed they developed and played on virtual gear but didn't know the
> >> name
> >> or capability. Yeah, I assumed we would not have direct access to
> >> anything
> >> except terminals so it would be transparent to us.
> >>
> >> Now where do we get the IOU ISO? :)
> >>
> >> Charles Henson
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "Tyson Scott" <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To: <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>, "'Justin Mitchell'"
> >> <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cc: "'Brad Ellis'" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>,
> >> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, "'Nathan Richie'" <nathanr_at_boice.net>,
> >>
> >> <nobody_at_groupstudy.com>, "'Nadeem Rafi'"
> >> <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Date: 10/07/2009 07:19 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Charles,
> >>
> >> IOU is actually more stable than dynamips but from your perspective
> you
> >> won't know the difference as you will just have terminal access to
> the
> >> routers as you would other devices in the lab.
> >>
> >> IOU has been around for a long time. Originally it was only
> supported
> >> on
> >> SUN workstations with a SPARC processor but within the last few years
> it
> >> has
> >> migrated to mostly Linux and was always a very good tool when I
> worked
> >> for
> >> Advanced Services.
> >>
> >> IOU has always been a tightly kept secret of Cisco's. Not sure if
> they
> >> will
> >> release it to learning partners as we were never allowed to show it
> to
> >> our
> >> customers.
> >>
> >> I would love to get my hands on it as it is better than dynamips and
> >> more
> >> efficient. But thank heavens for dynamips right for the rest of us.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
> >> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
> >>
> >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> >> Cell: +1.248.504.7309
> >> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> >> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >> Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 5:31 PM
> >> To: Justin Mitchell
> >> Cc: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Nathan Richie;
> >> nobody_at_groupstudy.com; Nadeem Rafi
> >> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>
> >> I wasn't very clear. I am very familiar with dynamips/GNS3. I was
> just
> >> curious how close IOU would look/feel to the GNS3 that many of us are
> >> used
> >> to. More than likely, we'll just get terminal windows and won't know
> the
> >> difference........until it crashes.... :)
> >>
> >> Charles Henson
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Justin Mitchell <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cc: Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>,
> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com,
> >> Nathan Richie <nathanr_at_boice.net>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com,
> >> Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Date: 10/07/2009 03:59 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No, GNS3 is a whole separate project used Dynamips and Dynagen. GNS3
> >> is actually just a GUI for Dynamips/Dynagen to make it easier to use.
> >> Dynamips is a hardware emulator.
> >>
> >> Justin G. Mitchell
> >> e: jgmitchell_at_gmail.com | skype: justin.g.mitchell
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just finished watching. Thanks for the link Brad.
> >>>
> >>> Does IOU = GNS3?
> >>>
> >>> Charles Henson
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
> >>>
> >>> To: "Nadeem Rafi" <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> Cc: "Nathan Richie" <nathanr_at_boice.net>,
> >>>
> >> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Date: 10/07/2009 12:21 PM
> >>>
> >>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Right here:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/lsr.php?AT=pb&SP=EC&rID=40520377
> >>
> >>> &rKey=4a695ccb75726703
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Brad Ellis
> >>>
> >>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> >>>
> >>> CCSI# 30482
> >>>
> >>> CEO / President
> >>>
> >>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> >>>
> >>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >>>
> >>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Nadeem Rafi [mailto:nrafia_at_gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:22 AM
> >>> To: Brad Ellis
> >>> Cc: Nathan Richie; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> i have missed the webnar.. how to get recording?
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Nathan.
> >>>
> >>> As you probably saw in the webinar yesterday, the new exam will be
> >>> comprised of three different separate sections:
> >>>
> >>> Core Knowledge (OEQ)
> >>> Troubleshooting
> >>> Configuration
> >>>
> >>> You must pass EACH individual section in order to pass the lab exam.
> >>>
> >> In
> >>
> >>> other words, if you fail a single section, then you fail the exam.
> One
> >>> of the most interesting items that was discussed during the event
> >>> yesterday is the direction Cisco is heading with using virtual
> >>> equipment. The ENTIRE troubleshooting portion of the new lab exam
> will
> >>> be done on Cisco IOU (software emulator). This gives the lab exam
> team
> >>> the ability to conjure up a larger network very easily. Fun stuff!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>> Brad Ellis
> >>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> >>> CCSI# 30482
> >>> CEO / President
> >>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> >>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> >>> International: +1-702-968-5100
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> >>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Nathan Richie [mailto:nathanr_at_boice.net]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:49 PM
> >>> To: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>>
> >>> Cool, thanks Brad
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Brad Ellis [mailto:brad_at_ccbootcamp.com]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:35 PM
> >>> To: Nathan Richie; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>>
> >>> Nathan,
> >>>
> >>> Hi! I had dinner with Maurilio tonight (and Russ White). Maurilio
> did
> >>> confirm that he is going to discuss the details of the score
> >>> requirements in the webinar next week. Should be interesting to hear
> >>> people's feedback... :)
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>> Brad Ellis
> >>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> >>> CCSI# 30482
> >>> CEO / President
> >>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> >>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> >>> International: +1-702-968-5100
> >>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
> >>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> >>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> >>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
> >>> CCIE Webinar: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/cciewebex.html
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >>>
> >> Of
> >>
> >>> Nathan Richie
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:51 AM
> >>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>> Subject: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>>
> >>> Does anybody know if any more has been said about the scoring of the
> >>> version 4
> >>> lab? I have heard and read that you will need 80 points, but I was
> >>> wondering
> >>> if Cisco has or if anybody thinks Cisco will provide any more detail
> >>> than
> >>> that.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Nathan Richie
> >>>
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