Re: cisco lab safe

Chaz,

Hi, How are you mate?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Chaz Brown <chazstats_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I have been reading this list for a long time, watching Darby post crap
> after crap... He's bashed every vendor at least once and promoted every
> vendor at least once...He promotes whichever vendor gives him free
> crap/classes/whatever...He bitches about how the OEQ are unfair, and should
> be boycotted...Darby has convinced me of one thing, and one thing only,
> that
> Darby is an idiot and does nothing but waste bandwidth. I am sick and tired
> of reading his crap. I try to filter him, but people respond to his crap,
> so
> that shows up in my groupstudy folder....I wish the list owner would remove
> him as he adds no value, whatsoever...PLEASE!
>
> Now, about Cisco and 360...so I don't waste bandwidth just whining about
> how
> Darby is the most annoying f*er on this list...
>
> Cisco has the most money, most resources, and best access to the exam
> materials. If Cisco wants to put out the best training product for their
> exam, they are going to do it. INE, IPX, Narbik, nor anyone else can do
> better than that by themselves....Forget it!!! Cisco has millions of
> dollars
> they can throw at developing CCIE training. No one else can even come
> close... If they want to own the market on CCIE training, they will. And
> either the other companies will join the program, diversify into other
> certifications, or go out of business...Cisco's big problem right now is
> their marketing of their 360 program. It's pathetic, awful, and a joke. Who
> ever is in charge of marketing for 360 should be FIRED immediately...Make
> them retire, walk them to the street, put them on the bus back to wherever
> they came from. Where are the Cisco engineers blogging, posting on forums
> and technical lists, answering technical questions, etc about CCIE??? It
> ain't happening. Not even the companies selling the 360 are doing a good
> job
> of marketing it...The program is confusing as hell...If you do a 360, don't
> you just go back to where you started from in the first place?!?! What a
> stupid marketing/program name...FIRE the marketing idiot...Now a free
> re-take if you fail the lab??? WTF!?!? If the program is so good in the
> first place, WTF should I be concerned about failing?!?!? What another
> stupid marketing idea...Why not just give the person a free attempt after
> they take the class??? STUPID STUPID STUPID marketing...FIRE the marketing
> idiot...The training is insanely overpriced and a rip-off for a brand new,
> non-time-proven training package...FIRE the marketing idiot.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Dark
> Fiber
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:02 AM
> To: Darby Weaver
> Cc: Evan Weston; Scott Morris; Brad Ellis; armylegionmedic_at_aol.com;
> dane.newman_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Rick Smith (smithr)
> Subject: Re: cisco lab safe
>
> All I know in July INE was completely dead in the water for you. That is
> all
> you hammered on since your were off to IPX's bootcamp in August. You took
> up
> the light saber against INE. Now today you are their biggest fan once
> again... Next month it will be someone else and so forth...
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Darby Weaver
> <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > What discount would that be Evan?
> >
> > You sound like you think I've been paid off....
> >
> > Hah!
> >
> > Get a clue...
> >
> > If anything I was still kind of curious about the INE 2.0 End-to-End....
> > except when the end changes...
> >
> >
> > But I agree they have to charge for development to make a buck.
> >
> >
> > Think like 360 - Where's the new development?
> >
> > The pirates have the old stuff and guess what its the new stuff anyway...
> > so what ya want me to tell ya?
> >
> > INE/IPE/Narbik are the current developers... for new exciting, quality
> > content..
> >
> > Guess what!!!
> >
> > None of them are that advertisement....
> >
> > Not one...
> >
> > See the whole picture...
> >
> > You don't gotta like me - but just check out what I say and see if it
> holds
> > water on the day I said it.
> >
> > If you can do that... you can keep up...
> >
> > If not... then man... you'd just be so... YESTERDAY.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Evan Weston
> <evan_weston_at_hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I was about to say the same thing. Not long ago he was on here
> >> prophesying their bankruptcy. I guess giving trolls a certain discount
> >> rate goes a long way to adjusting their attitudes.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* Dark Fiber [mailto:darkfiber08_at_gmail.com]
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 September 2009 11:36 PM
> >> *To:* Darby Weaver
> >> *Cc:* Evan Weston; Scott Morris; Brad Ellis; armylegionmedic_at_aol.com;
> >> dane.newman_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Rick Smith (smithr)
> >>
> >> *Subject:* Re: cisco lab safe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Darby weren't you just saying two months ago INE was DOA????
> >>
> >> This is way your credibility always comes into question. You flip flop
> >> every other month man...
> >>
> >> Not saying you were anywhere near close to being right about INE either
> >> two months ago...
>
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