RE: cisco lab safe

I have been reading this list for a long time, watching Darby post crap
after crap... He's bashed every vendor at least once and promoted every
vendor at least once...He promotes whichever vendor gives him free
crap/classes/whatever...He bitches about how the OEQ are unfair, and should
be boycotted...Darby has convinced me of one thing, and one thing only, that
Darby is an idiot and does nothing but waste bandwidth. I am sick and tired
of reading his crap. I try to filter him, but people respond to his crap, so
that shows up in my groupstudy folder....I wish the list owner would remove
him as he adds no value, whatsoever...PLEASE!

Now, about Cisco and 360...so I don't waste bandwidth just whining about how
Darby is the most annoying f*er on this list...

Cisco has the most money, most resources, and best access to the exam
materials. If Cisco wants to put out the best training product for their
exam, they are going to do it. INE, IPX, Narbik, nor anyone else can do
better than that by themselves....Forget it!!! Cisco has millions of dollars
they can throw at developing CCIE training. No one else can even come
close... If they want to own the market on CCIE training, they will. And
either the other companies will join the program, diversify into other
certifications, or go out of business...Cisco's big problem right now is
their marketing of their 360 program. It's pathetic, awful, and a joke. Who
ever is in charge of marketing for 360 should be FIRED immediately...Make
them retire, walk them to the street, put them on the bus back to wherever
they came from. Where are the Cisco engineers blogging, posting on forums
and technical lists, answering technical questions, etc about CCIE??? It
ain't happening. Not even the companies selling the 360 are doing a good job
of marketing it...The program is confusing as hell...If you do a 360, don't
you just go back to where you started from in the first place?!?! What a
stupid marketing/program name...FIRE the marketing idiot...Now a free
re-take if you fail the lab??? WTF!?!? If the program is so good in the
first place, WTF should I be concerned about failing?!?!? What another
stupid marketing idea...Why not just give the person a free attempt after
they take the class??? STUPID STUPID STUPID marketing...FIRE the marketing
idiot...The training is insanely overpriced and a rip-off for a brand new,
non-time-proven training package...FIRE the marketing idiot.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Dark
Fiber
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:02 AM
To: Darby Weaver
Cc: Evan Weston; Scott Morris; Brad Ellis; armylegionmedic_at_aol.com;
dane.newman_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Rick Smith (smithr)
Subject: Re: cisco lab safe

All I know in July INE was completely dead in the water for you. That is all
you hammered on since your were off to IPX's bootcamp in August. You took up
the light saber against INE. Now today you are their biggest fan once
again... Next month it will be someone else and so forth...

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Darby Weaver
<darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> What discount would that be Evan?
>
> You sound like you think I've been paid off....
>
> Hah!
>
> Get a clue...
>
> If anything I was still kind of curious about the INE 2.0 End-to-End....
> except when the end changes...
>
>
> But I agree they have to charge for development to make a buck.
>
>
> Think like 360 - Where's the new development?
>
> The pirates have the old stuff and guess what its the new stuff anyway...
> so what ya want me to tell ya?
>
> INE/IPE/Narbik are the current developers... for new exciting, quality
> content..
>
> Guess what!!!
>
> None of them are that advertisement....
>
> Not one...
>
> See the whole picture...
>
> You don't gotta like me - but just check out what I say and see if it
holds
> water on the day I said it.
>
> If you can do that... you can keep up...
>
> If not... then man... you'd just be so... YESTERDAY.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Evan Weston
<evan_weston_at_hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I was about to say the same thing. Not long ago he was on here
>> prophesying their bankruptcy. I guess giving trolls a certain discount
>> rate goes a long way to adjusting their attitudes.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Dark Fiber [mailto:darkfiber08_at_gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 September 2009 11:36 PM
>> *To:* Darby Weaver
>> *Cc:* Evan Weston; Scott Morris; Brad Ellis; armylegionmedic_at_aol.com;
>> dane.newman_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Rick Smith (smithr)
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: cisco lab safe
>>
>>
>>
>> Darby weren't you just saying two months ago INE was DOA????
>>
>> This is way your credibility always comes into question. You flip flop
>> every other month man...
>>
>> Not saying you were anywhere near close to being right about INE either
>> two months ago...

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