RE: OT: Why do about 4000+ CCIEs of 25,000 CCIE's...

All,

Is that $300 price just for the U.S.? Is the price for the CCIE written exam about Rs14628.21?

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From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Rick Mur
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:25 PM
To: john matijevic
Cc: Wayne Lawson; <Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com>; Anthony Sequeira; ccie forum; Darby Weaver; nobody_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: OT: Why do about 4000+ CCIEs of 25,000 CCIE's...

I think with the salaries that are paid to CCIE's they can afford
doing an exam that costs like $300 every other year :-)
The only thing is that you have to make a little time studying for the
written, but if you still work in the business even in a design role
you won't have much trouble with it.

Just my 2ct

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Rick Mur
CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
Sr. Support Engineer  IPexpert, Inc.
URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
On 5 sep 2009, at 20:18, john matijevic wrote:
> Hello Team,
> I had my cert, and then it expired, I was really busy working on high
> level projects that required much of my time. The reason my expired,
> is the fact that I had neither the time nor the expense. Unless you
> work for a Cisco partner that pays for your training, and they have a
> discount for the cisco product with your ccie number. Again its an
> expensive certification where the costs keep rising each year, unless
> your employer pays for it, really no reason to recertify on your own
> expense. my two cents.
> Sincerely,
> John
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Wayne
> Lawson<groupstudy_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
>> No - He started his own company, "Jeff Doyle and Associates" -
>> Google it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
>> Founder & President - IPexpert, Inc.
>> Mailto: wlawson_at_ipexpert.com
>> Mobile: +1.810.334.1564
>>
>> :: Message sent from iPhone.
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:53 PM, <Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't Doyle work at Juniper now?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From:
>>> Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
>>> To:
>>> Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>
>>> Cc:
>>> ccie forum <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>> Date:
>>> 09/04/2009 10:05 AM
>>> Subject:
>>> Re: OT: Why do about 4000+ CCIEs of 25,000 CCIE's...
>>> Sent by:
>>> nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think it would be fairly interesting to hear from former CCIEs
>>> that
>>> let their cert expire. I heard that Jeff Doyle did (Cisco Press).
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I think we have about a 0% chance of finding them
>>> reading this post on GS.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>
>>> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
>>> http://www.INE.com
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Darby Weaver wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone care to speculate why 4000+ CCIE's don't think simply taking
>>>> the CCIE
>>>> Written again is worth all the effort they spent to get the CCIE in
>>>> the
>>>> first place and maintain it?
>>>>
>>>> I have to ask the question?
>>>>
>>>> A few CCIE's are asking me now and and a lot of CCIE's have asked
>>>> me
>>>> overall
>>>> over the last few years - "How to get employed after attaining the
>>>> CCIE?"
>>>>
>>>> Others seem to have an issue getting that raise or advancement.
>>>>
>>>> Is the ROI not there for about 1 in 6 CCIE's?
>>>>
>>>> Now while most of us say we seek the cert for personal reasons....
>>>> and this
>>>> may be true since 5 in 6 are staying certified...
>>>>
>>>> But consider this:
>>>>
>>>> About 6,000 CCIE's and maybe even 9,000 or so are newly certified -
>>>> meaning
>>>> thay have yet to have to recertify or may be in Suspended Mode
>>>> for not
>>>> certifying in time and have a year to catch up...
>>>>
>>>> so...
>>>>
>>>> Now we have about 4000 or 16000 CCIE's who choose to let their CCIE
>>>> wither
>>>> an die....
>>>>
>>>> I have to ask why those 25% think the CCIE not worth the effort of
>>>> maintaining after such an effort?
>>>>
>>>> Now before we start...  I guess a lot of people will chime in
>>>> anonymously...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's great we are on the Internet.
>>>>
>>>> But if a fomer CCIE (verifiable) were to chime in on why he/she did
>>>> not
>>>> think the cert worth maintaining...  that would be interesting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can it be that many are just not finding jobs with the CCIE or just
>>>> plainly
>>>> have not seen the value...
>>>>
>>>> It costs most people at least $10-30k to achieve and 1-3+ years to
>>>> attain...
>>>>
>>>> Not worth spending 3-6 months to prep for the CCIE Written and
>>>> pay the
>>>> $3xx.00 to maintain the certification?
>>>>
>>>> Why not?
>>>>
>>>> Did all of them just burnout, retire, or just die?
>>>>
>>>> Seems like a high number for all three of those reasons combined.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course everyone has their own reasons....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just curious...
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Network Engineer
>>>>
>>>> 407-802-7394
>>>> darbyweaver_at_yahoo.com
>>>>
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