Re: Failed Again!!!

Quite right, Rick.

With troubleshooting it also would be better to have it as the first
task with no access to the rest of the tasks, should one fail that part.
As in real world, you fix a broken network first, then you do some
innovations.

A.

Rick Tyrell wrote:
> I failed for the 3rd time on August 17th. I haven't felt like writing
> anything until I read this post. I failed the OEQ section, even
> though I had passed it the last time. So I guess I went from being
> 100% on Core Knowledge to 0% even though I sat another bootcamp and
> was able to dedicate the final 6 weeks of preparation without having
> to be at work. I covered my weak areas. But I can not memorize every
> Cisco Press book verbatim which is what the OEQ seems to have become.
>
> Now I understand that Cisco is trying to weed out people who cheat.
> But they are doing it the wrong way. Don't waste someones money and
> time having them fly out to a CCIE Lab locations and fail them on the
> OEQ section. Make it a separate exam that can be taken remotely or at
> a local Cisco office. Once they can pass the OEQ then they can be
> allowed to take the Lab exam. Interview me in person at a Cisco
> office and see if I am a cheater or not. It doesn't take long to find
> out if someone really knows their stuff, just talk to them face to
> face for a few minutes. I have worked closely with Cisco SEs and
> spent many hours on the phone with TAC troubleshooting problems they
> have never seen. Even teaching them a few things in coming up with
> solutions!
>
> I also went throughout the CCNA, CCNP, and CCSP. I remember failing
> the Troubleshooting and Support exam for the CCNP twice before finally
> passing it, almost giving up. I also have over 10 years of building
> and troubleshooting complex networks. If Cisco is really considering
> the "Cisco Certified Architect" methodology maybe they should look at
> what a candidate has gone through before taking the CCIE exam. If I
> was cheating do you think I would have gone through the time and money
> it took going through the foundational certifications and spending
> countless hours in training?
>
> Maybe instead of an OEQ section we could write and essay about how we
> love Cisco and will never user another companies products...LOL. I
> could write in there how I convinced my company to switch from 3COM to
> Cisco and have blanketed our entire Campus with their equipment and
> Smartnet contracts. This was all done by me, not a CCIE or "Cisco
> Certified Architect" or Cisco SE. I mean that is what they are trying
> to produce right? Someone who knows the technology, can sell the
> technology to the CIO, configure and troubleshoot it, draw up some
> pretty Visio diagrams, and upgrade to the newest model every few
> years. I have been doing all this for the last 10 years :)
>
> I will learn the 4.0 material because it is relevant to current
> industry standards We are getting ready to implement MPLS VPNs where
> I work. But I will not be taking the CCIE 4.0 R&S Lab unless Cisco
> removes the OEQ section, if I decide to take it at all. I do feel the
> troubleshooting section is a step in the right direction. This exam
> should be testing candidates on real world topologies and situations.
> I have always had respect for Cisco and their certification program.
> But I'm done with pissing my money and time down the toilet.
>
>
> -Rick
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Alexei Monastyrnyi
> <alexeim73_at_gmail.com <mailto:alexeim73_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Sorry to hear that, mate. 5th try was my lucky one, so you might
> pass on that one as well. Just keep up high spirits.
>
> A. #17234 (RS)
>
>
> Dennis Worth wrote:
>
> FYI Group
> Failed CCIE R&S for the 4th time, and this time it was because
> of the OEQ's.
> I am so glad Cisco wants to stop the cheaters out there, but
> after 5 years
> on and off of going through this stuff to pass this lab,
> failing on 1 simple
> question that is not EXACTLY what they are asking for is
> absolutely out of
> control.
>
> I will be back, but to all who take this lab exam, you might
> as well chalk
> it up to LUCK more than skill or knowledge. I hate what this
> exam has come
> to. It really has no relevance to anything with those questions.
>
> Best of LUCK to anyone who takes the lab, because you will
> need it!
>
>
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