Re: Petition: Revamp or Replace OEQ

Why does the subject say petition when we still have the eternal argument
going on whether the OEQs should be there or not.I guess we have already had
a long chain of threads on this when Cisco announced the introduction of
OEQs. As for this particular topic, I appreciate Darby's stand & courage on
leading the petition and having the hope of, if not acheiving, then at least
putting the buzz in Cisco's ears that there is quite a section of candidates
not very happy with the current OEQ format and Cisco should consider
reviewing it to say the least.If it turns out through this list that there
are a lot of people for this motion we might succeed in turning the boulder
and I feel there is no harm in trying. After all it is our
personal/professional lives involved here and not to forget our hard earned
money.

 Therefore, people who would like to put a signature entry into the petition
should do so in this thread and this should also include existing CCIEs who
have some honest feedback to give. No intent of being rude but people who
think this ain't gonna work or OEQs are good etc. should open up the GS
archives to stop repeating what already has been said long ago.

As far as whining about the OEQ is concerned, I am sure no whiner ( as some
people call them ) is against Cisco's approach to curb cheating . Every
honest candidate is with Cisco's policy on stopping cheating through the
exam but the way Cisco has geared it up is slightly impractical(lack of a
better word). It is the OEQ format which does not go easily down the throat
and a lot has already been discussed on why is it so.

So without saying more on it, my hand is up for Cisco to see to please
review the OEQs or come up with a digestive approach.

My Suggestion -- As Narbik mentioned - let the proctor have a glance on our
configs and ask on why a particular command has been used or explain the
show output of a particular command etc.

Ravi

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Seems like we need a petition to make the point clear.
>
> Now if some of you guys don't think that some of the OEQ's are fair... I
> have to ask the question is repeating "Hearsay" even close the breaking the
> NDA?
>
> Because if I were to show you some questions that I've run across you
> might now find them so easy and if the instructors themselves can't find
> reasonable answers... in a reasonable time-frame... (Ummm.... Candidates
> only get 30 minutes for 4 of these puppies and no use of Google.com btw).
>
> I've got to ask you? Who are we trying to get to pass the CCIE Lab?
>
> Disclaimer: See the first batch of OEQ. Straight forward mostly.
>
> If your questions start asking "Why"...
>
> You might as well just hand in your lab guide and catch your plane and go
> home... Unless you know you nailed them and did not second guess
> yourself.
>
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Received on Sun Sep 06 2009 - 01:57:53 ART