Re: Failed Again!!!

I failed for the 3rd time on August 17th. I haven't felt like writing
anything until I read this post. I failed the OEQ section, even though I
had passed it the last time. So I guess I went from being 100% on Core
Knowledge to 0% even though I sat another bootcamp and was able to dedicate
the final 6 weeks of preparation without having to be at work. I covered my
weak areas. But I can not memorize every Cisco Press book verbatim which is
what the OEQ seems to have become.

Now I understand that Cisco is trying to weed out people who cheat. But
they are doing it the wrong way. Don't waste someones money and time having
them fly out to a CCIE Lab locations and fail them on the OEQ section. Make
it a separate exam that can be taken remotely or at a local Cisco
office. Once they can pass the OEQ then they can be allowed to take the Lab
exam. Interview me in person at a Cisco office and see if I am a cheater or
not. It doesn't take long to find out if someone really knows their stuff,
just talk to them face to face for a few minutes. I have worked closely
with Cisco SEs and spent many hours on the phone with TAC troubleshooting
problems they have never seen. Even teaching them a few things in coming up
with solutions!

I also went throughout the CCNA, CCNP, and CCSP. I remember failing the
Troubleshooting and Support exam for the CCNP twice before finally passing
it, almost giving up. I also have over 10 years of building and
troubleshooting complex networks. If Cisco is really considering the "Cisco
Certified Architect" methodology maybe they should look at what a candidate
has gone through before taking the CCIE exam. If I was cheating do you
think I would have gone through the time and money it took going through the
foundational certifications and spending countless hours in training?

Maybe instead of an OEQ section we could write and essay about how we love
Cisco and will never user another companies products...LOL. I could write
in there how I convinced my company to switch from 3COM to Cisco and have
blanketed our entire Campus with their equipment and Smartnet contracts.
This was all done by me, not a CCIE or "Cisco Certified Architect" or Cisco
SE. I mean that is what they are trying to produce right? Someone who
knows the technology, can sell the technology to the CIO, configure and
troubleshoot it, draw up some pretty Visio diagrams, and upgrade to the
newest model every few years. I have been doing all this for the last 10
years :)

I will learn the 4.0 material because it is relevant to current industry
standards We are getting ready to implement MPLS VPNs where I work. But I
will not be taking the CCIE 4.0 R&S Lab unless Cisco removes the OEQ
section, if I decide to take it at all. I do feel the troubleshooting
section is a step in the right direction. This exam should
be testing candidates on real world topologies and situations. I have
always had respect for Cisco and their certification program. But I'm done
with pissing my money and time down the toilet.

-Rick

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Alexei Monastyrnyi <alexeim73_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Sorry to hear that, mate. 5th try was my lucky one, so you might pass on
> that one as well. Just keep up high spirits.
>
> A. #17234 (RS)
>
> Dennis Worth wrote:
>
>> FYI Group
>> Failed CCIE R&S for the 4th time, and this time it was because of the
>> OEQ's.
>> I am so glad Cisco wants to stop the cheaters out there, but after 5 years
>> on and off of going through this stuff to pass this lab, failing on 1
>> simple
>> question that is not EXACTLY what they are asking for is absolutely out of
>> control.
>>
>> I will be back, but to all who take this lab exam, you might as well chalk
>> it up to LUCK more than skill or knowledge. I hate what this exam has come
>> to. It really has no relevance to anything with those questions.
>>
>> Best of LUCK to anyone who takes the lab, because you will need it!
>>
>
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