Re: Failed Again!!!

Very well said and thought provoking. I feel the same way.

Thank you Rick.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Rick Tyrell <rtyrell_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I failed for the 3rd time on August 17th. I haven't felt like writing
> anything until I read this post. I failed the OEQ section, even though I
> had passed it the last time. So I guess I went from being 100% on Core
> Knowledge to 0% even though I sat another bootcamp and was able to dedicate
> the final 6 weeks of preparation without having to be at work. I covered
> my
> weak areas. But I can not memorize every Cisco Press book verbatim which
> is
> what the OEQ seems to have become.
>
> Now I understand that Cisco is trying to weed out people who cheat. But
> they are doing it the wrong way. Don't waste someones money and time
> having
> them fly out to a CCIE Lab locations and fail them on the OEQ section.
> Make
> it a separate exam that can be taken remotely or at a local Cisco
> office. Once they can pass the OEQ then they can be allowed to take the
> Lab
> exam. Interview me in person at a Cisco office and see if I am a cheater
> or
> not. It doesn't take long to find out if someone really knows their stuff,
> just talk to them face to face for a few minutes. I have worked closely
> with Cisco SEs and spent many hours on the phone with TAC troubleshooting
> problems they have never seen. Even teaching them a few things in coming
> up
> with solutions!
>
> I also went throughout the CCNA, CCNP, and CCSP. I remember failing the
> Troubleshooting and Support exam for the CCNP twice before finally passing
> it, almost giving up. I also have over 10 years of building and
> troubleshooting complex networks. If Cisco is really considering the
> "Cisco
> Certified Architect" methodology maybe they should look at what a candidate
> has gone through before taking the CCIE exam. If I was cheating do you
> think I would have gone through the time and money it took going through
> the
> foundational certifications and spending countless hours in training?
>
> Maybe instead of an OEQ section we could write and essay about how we love
> Cisco and will never user another companies products...LOL. I could
> write
> in there how I convinced my company to switch from 3COM to Cisco and have
> blanketed our entire Campus with their equipment and Smartnet contracts.
> This was all done by me, not a CCIE or "Cisco Certified Architect" or Cisco
> SE. I mean that is what they are trying to produce right? Someone who
> knows the technology, can sell the technology to the CIO, configure and
> troubleshoot it, draw up some pretty Visio diagrams, and upgrade to the
> newest model every few years. I have been doing all this for the last 10
> years :)
>
> I will learn the 4.0 material because it is relevant to current industry
> standards We are getting ready to implement MPLS VPNs where I work. But I
> will not be taking the CCIE 4.0 R&S Lab unless Cisco removes the OEQ
> section, if I decide to take it at all. I do feel the troubleshooting
> section is a step in the right direction. This exam should
> be testing candidates on real world topologies and situations. I have
> always had respect for Cisco and their certification program. But I'm done
> with pissing my money and time down the toilet.
>
>
> -Rick
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Alexei Monastyrnyi <alexeim73_at_gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Sorry to hear that, mate. 5th try was my lucky one, so you might pass on
> > that one as well. Just keep up high spirits.
> >
> > A. #17234 (RS)
> >
> > Dennis Worth wrote:
> >
> >> FYI Group
> >> Failed CCIE R&S for the 4th time, and this time it was because of the
> >> OEQ's.
> >> I am so glad Cisco wants to stop the cheaters out there, but after 5
> years
> >> on and off of going through this stuff to pass this lab, failing on 1
> >> simple
> >> question that is not EXACTLY what they are asking for is absolutely out
> of
> >> control.
> >>
> >> I will be back, but to all who take this lab exam, you might as well
> chalk
> >> it up to LUCK more than skill or knowledge. I hate what this exam has
> come
> >> to. It really has no relevance to anything with those questions.
> >>
> >> Best of LUCK to anyone who takes the lab, because you will need it!
> >>
> >
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