Ok
By request...
Since I've had the good fortune to speak to the two people who know whether
anyone can cheat on the CCIE, what is considered cheating and conversely
what is not (hint: integrity and identification is the key), and finally how
it all kinda adds up in the longs run...
If you only got 73 CCIE's in one country the size of India... and can't find
suitable employment as a CCIE, not to be mean... but I have to ask...
1. What does your resume look like?
2. What does your experience look like.
3. Cisco is probably not worried about 73 CCIE's taking the CCIE and 3 score
and a little more devalueing the industry... Nope.
4. Do you get the interview at all?
5. Do you know Cisco has TAC in India and I'm sure they are hiring
well-qualified job applicants?
6. Consulting has got to pay... I know sub-CCIE's in the USA doing remote
work in India - a few actually... and if they are employed and earning USA
Dollars.... at a rate that is attractive to partners (say $100-200+ per
hour) then I have a hard time believing that 73 CCIE's have saturated a
market of millions...
7. If you guys are truly having this much trouble - lemme know... maybe I
can start a company in India with these CCIE's and service clients anywhere
else in the USA... Promise you - I can market you and pay you prevailing
wage or better for part-time work or full-time project work...
By the way - this has all the makings of a genuine offer... for CCIE's
mostly anywhere... FYI - I was able to sell my MCSE for $125 per hour on a
factor of 3... per hour. I'm sure I can manuever a CCIE a few ways to
Sunday and I love the "Sun Does Not Set On My CCIE's Concept". In short, I
should be able to get you paid and keep you paid... even if we gotta go
ghetto...
If anyone thinks earning a CCIE does not increase one's know-how in this
world that I live and work in... we need to talk especially if a CCIE has
doubts... maybe someone's suffering from premature Alzheimer's... We can
fix that.
No track offers more recognition or deserves it more than the CCIE. Simple
as that... and that's about the sum of it...
Not sure how to say more about it.
Tell ya what at any company where there is a CCIE, where does the buck stop?
Case closed.
Yes, CIO's, Prinicpals, Director's andd others earn more than a CCIE does
typically or at least the same...
Hey... most won't have a certification at all. Some may not even have a
degree... It's just a cookie and it crumbles...
I've been in the industry for better than a decade and a half in the private
industry not counting military time and whatever I did there and I cannot
explain it either.
Sure CISSP's and PMP's get paid if they get REALLY LUCKY...
CCIE's get paid on a bad day with the measles or the mumps... and a sawed
off foot.... to ummm... boot.
Sure there are about thousands of CCIE's.... so don't migrate to China....
However in the USA, we are starving for CCIE's and we lost one from the
monthly totals last month... until H* U* gets time to play catch up. Then
we break even again...
But hey 4000-5000+ CCIE's only go so far.
Let's face it most work for Cisco and how many are trainers?
Maybe a third or a fourth actually work for employers... and some few
actually perform true consulting...
On attaining a second or even third or more CCIE...
The more I think of this the more I think it is pointless.
People recognize the CCIE.... and they don't necessarily recognize the
specialization (outside of partners).
What was the point?
Yes get trained and yes get the skills and even yes build a lab to get your
stuff working...
Wasting valuable time that could be spent earning $$$... no point to it.
Do you want to be a consumer all your life or a producer?
What was the point again?
Again, you guys got my email - if you need to earn dome ducks... let me
know...
Juniper does not excite me so much...
But Juniper hires.... CCIE's.
Go figure?
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Divin Mathew John <divinjohn_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> "Frankly speaking CCIE is not a dream certification now. It is easy to
> achieve using different materials available on web sites (everybody know
> about it)."
> But the Question still remains.. After all the shortcuts to
> certification..is the certificate really worth it? Does it add value to your
> current know-how!
>
> Ponder over it for sometime.!
>
> I hope the controversy-NINJA Darby drops in !
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